Property taxes

[pmbug]

I have no idea if this is going to go anywhere, but I found it interesting:

The Supreme Court just accepted a property tax case that could change how every American owns land.

Case 26-179. Filed August 5th. Accepted 5 days later.

The real question is whether any competent forum exists to challenge how your property is valued in the first place.

Here is the architecture. The appraisal district sets your value. The review board can only adjust the number on your house. It cannot rule on whether the valuation method itself is lawful.

If you try to take it to court, they tell you to go back to the review board. The board cannot fix the method. The courts will not hear the method.

Your rights exist on paper. They cannot be enforced in operation.

A state cannot preserve the appearance of rights while designing procedures so that no tribunal can ever adjudicate or enforce them.

If this structure stands in property tax, it can be copied into every other area where rights pass through administrative tribunals with limited power.

This affects every property owner in every state.

That's why this case reaches further than any single tax bill.

 

[Bottom Feeder]

I ain't gonna hold my breath…

 

[Casey Jones]

How are they going to make the argument that this is a FEDERAL issue?

No matter your stance on taxes, it's states and counties that levy and collect real-estate taxes.

 

[Joe King]

How are they going to make the argument that this is a FEDERAL issue?

No matter your stance on taxes, it's states and counties that levy and collect real-estate taxes.

The States and Counties still can't violate your Rights.

 

[Casey Jones]

The States and Counties still can't violate your Rights.

So, from the time of definition of Natural Rights of Man, through to to 250 years of this nation...untaxed real-estate was NOT a right, but alluva-sudden it IS.

The only logic to that, would be to recast the definition of "rights" to whatever the Kourts order that they are, when they order it.

Basically, making the Kourts into Divinities.

And/or making "rights" subservient to politics - pull, pressure, the holding of office.

 

[Joe King]

So, from the time of definition of Natural Rights of Man, through to to 250 years of this nation...untaxed real-estate was NOT a right, but alluva-sudden it IS.

The only logic to that, would be to recast the definition of "rights" to whatever the Kourts order that they are, when they order it.

Basically, making the Kourts into Divinities.

And/or making "rights" subservient to politics - pull, pressure, the holding of office.

Seeing that they took the case, we will find out.

They could go either way on it, but once they do the matter will be settled.


They can only hear cases that someone chose to spend the time and resources on to get it that far through the legal process.

There are lots of legal questions that have never made it that far.

 

[pmbug]

Casey - the case is not about whether or not "untaxed real-estate is a right". It's arguing a very specific issue with respect to how real estate taxes are assessed. If the method is eventually found to be invalid, that doesn't necessarily mean that government(s) can't develop a new structure that is valid.

 

[Casey Jones]

They could go either way on it, but once they do the matter will be settled.

Ah, yes, the Imperial Kourt model. A relative of the Divine Right of Kings, and Papal Infallibility.

I dislike the model - AS the model, as I tried to show. I don't accept something as a "right" just because someone wearing a ritual robe says it is. The Reniasaince philosophers, articulating Natural Law, were far more persuasive.

As to it being settled...how'd Roe-Vee-Wade work out in terms of being settled forever? For that matter, Dred Scott. And Jim Crow...Separate-Butt-Equal.

Laws, edicts, orders, that move out of the legislative and into Imperial Edict, likewise move resistance from campaign attacks to bombings, gunfire, riots, and @$$@$$ination.

However it goes, it's not a win. It's not a win because the Kourt has no business arguing it.

 

[Viking]

So, from the time of definition of Natural Rights of Man, through to to 250 years of this nation...untaxed real-estate was NOT a right, but alluva-sudden it IS.

The only logic to that, would be to recast the definition of "rights" to whatever the Kourts order that they are, when they order it.

Basically, making the Kourts into Divinities.

And/or making "rights" subservient to politics - pull, pressure, the holding of office.

Probably in other states too.

Minnesota Constitution Art. I, § 15. Lands allodial; void agricultural leases​

Sec. 15. All lands within the state are allodial and feudal tenures of every description with all their incidents are prohibited. Leases and grants of agricultural lands for a longer period than 21 years reserving rent or service of any kind shall be void.