*Sigh* Platinum takes a dump, again...

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Rafi has talked a lot about the Palladium market the last two videos. I went to see if I could buy some physical but it was non-existent. A few bars were available and they were $200 over spot.


Headlines, JPM moved Half of its silver left over to possibly deliver. Meaning they don't have much left.

Something even Bigger in Palladium is happening.
 
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i have a bit of PL ... i have never actively tried to sell it but if you mention selling it at a coin show or at a coin shop seems like the dealers start backing away and hem hawing about how much the discount is etc, basicly they dont want to buy it unless you take a huge haircut ....unlike if you mention selling some 90% silver they will come around the table/counter to try to buy it
 
I had a Palladium bar and sold near the last peak (or close to what I though). I didn't have a problem but went to a bigger city quality coin shop. I also wanted to trade so I got a couple 1/2 oz Pt coins in trade plus a small check.
 

 
Hydrogen vehicles will not need catalytic converters, so that supply can shift.
 
Hydrogen vehicles will not need catalytic converters, so that supply can shift.
i agree direct hydrogen burning vehicles do not need catalytic converters........but hydrogen fuel cells that produce electricity for electric motors do use a lot of platinum .........so its two totally different concepts

in this concept vehicles are electric motor driven but instead of batteries they use hydrogen fuel cells
 

It's not just on the consumption end but Also on the Production of the Hydrogen. Many options to produce the hydrogen would also use a decent amount of Pt.
 
Spot price of platinum doesn't matter. When you see random 1oz. platinum coins for sale @ SD for < $1k is a good buying opportunity.

Don't buy kilo platinum bars because they are hard to resell.
 

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1 oz coin random date $993! A bargain.

 
Gold to Platinum ratio had recently dipped back under 2. As I type it is 2.15. Seems like a screaming good deal/cheap price. Platinum and Silver have been the twin step sisters for a long time now. Wonder when something is gonna give?
 
Things are building to the breaking point everywhere. For better or worse this doesn't hold together much longer. You can get some $980 major mint Pt coins now but I'm a bit tapped out, though leveraging up is tempting I must say.
 
It's going to break when Russia and South Africa cut off supplyvto the west.
 
It's going to break when Russia and South Africa cut off supplyvto the west.

If there is a market that Russia almost itself controls that would be Pt/Pd. Throw in S. Africa and they absolutely can control that market.

Went and looked this is for Platinum




And they control Palladium

 


Sounds like now is a good time to buy.
 
A good time to load up was about a week ago who SD had randome 1 iz coins for $929. That is the number to shoot for.
I bought some 1 oz gold Krugs for $1919 just prior or would have picked up the platinum.
 

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Platinum will explode when they realize that the excess supply of electric vehicles on dealer lots is going niwhere.
 
Platinum will explode when they realize that the excess supply of electric vehicles on dealer lots is going niwhere.

platinum is more tied to diesel vehicles currently.....as Palladium is more tied to Gas vehicles........these ties are not exclusive just in general ......some of Pts issue vs Pl is that they are finding new ways besides catalysts to scrub diesel exhausts.......and i used the words "currently" and "in general" as they can use either metal to catalyze exhausts it just requires re-engineering

both metals still struggle under geo-political supply uncertainty issues, but feasible recyclability is helping that issue

imo where big future demand could come from is as a hydrogen fuel cell catalyst etc

just a fyi type post
 
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The price could explode 3x if South Africa and Russia restricted exports.
 
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