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Fatrat said:
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It's silly to be upset about this.

Who you need to be upset with is the "victims" who can't even come forward to say what happened to them and by whom.

No one has ever been prosecuted for a sex crime based only on what's written on somebody's piece of paper without also having a victim willing to testify against them.

Where are the 1000+ victims at? Start there.
 
America is so FREE that you can vote for the RED pedophile party or the BLUE pedophile party… and we’re even lucky enough to have both sides controlled by Israel. 
 
Joe King said:
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Who you need to be upset with is the "victims" who can't even come forward to say what happened to them and by whom.
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Where are the 1000+ victims at? Start there.
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You've raised that point several times. It's been addressed several times. You are seemingly willfully ignoring certain realities here IMO. Trying to expose a deep state compromat network is a good way to get suicided. This isn't a game for the folks involved.
 
pmbug said:
You've raised that point several times. It's been addressed several times. You are seemingly willfully ignoring certain realities here IMO. Trying to expose a deep state compromat network is a good way to get suicided. This isn't a game for the folks involved.
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There's more than 1000 victims supposedly. They can't kill all of 'em, and it still stands that without someone on a witness stand saying "that man did x to me", nothing is gonna happen.

I'm just saying it's silly to expect the gov to go after people with no victim willing to testify against them.
 
Unless of course we just want a list of names of those accused so they can be tried in the court of public opinion.

Awhile back some victims said they were gonna name names if more files weren't released.

None were released and we never heard anything more from them about it.
 
searcher said:
Maurene Comey, daughter of James Comey and prosecutor of Jeffrey Epstein, is fired

Comey, who had worked in the U.S. attorney’s office for nearly a decade, prosecuted both Jeffrey Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell.

Maurene Comey, who prosecuted Jeffrey Epstein and is former FBI Director James Comey’s daughter, was fired Wednesday from her job in the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, according to two people familiar with the matter who were granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

The reason for her firing was not immediately clear. She did not immediately respond to phone calls and an email seeking comment. Spokespeople for the Justice Department and the U.S. attorney’s office declined to comment.

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Update

Trump administration's firing of prosecutor Maurene Comey was unlawful, judge rules​

By Luc Cohen

NEW YORK, Oct 26 (Reuters) - The abrupt firing of Maurene Comey as a federal prosecutor by President Donald Trump's administration was unlawful, a US judge ruled on Monday in a victory for the eldest daughter of former FBI director and longtime Trump adversary James Comey.

Maurene Comey, who brought criminal cases against Jeffrey Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell and music mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs during a tenure at the Manhattan US Attorney's office that began in 2015, was fired by Trump's Justice Department in July 2025. Her dismissal came a few months after the Republican president began his second term in office.

Read the rest here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...wful-judge-rules/ar-AA2g6X9r?ocid=socialshare
 
chieftain said:
They're dead.
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No they're not. Not all of 'em at least. There was a press conference by a bunch of 'em not long ago, and I've read that there's hundreds of victims out there.....somewhere.
.....abd if there are dead ones, where's the bodies?

How do you charge and convict someone without a victim or a body?
 
Joe King said:
No they're not. Not all of 'em at least. There was a press conference by a bunch of 'em not long ago, and I've read that there's hundreds of victims out there.....somewhere.
.....abd if there are dead ones, where's the bodies?

How do you charge and convict someone without a victim or a body?
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I think you need to look beyond Epstein and his immediate crimes. His victims aren't that numerous, it doesn't dimish what they went through but his crimes are inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

Think of Epstein and co as a gatekeeper event/group. The crimes of those behind those gates are orders of magnitude worse in both scale/quantity and severity. The sorts of people that are perps in that cohort are some of the most evil psychopaths the world will ever produce. They will stop at nothing to ensure they remain untouchable, and that does include of disposing of the victims leaving no trace. This is the reason both sides of the uniparty coin are reticent to push for full blown investigations at any level, let alone lay criminal charges and unseal indictment. Not only are both sides complicit at a token, Epstein-esque level, they are protecting their masters who are guilty of the most heinous crimes.
 
***Disclaimer: I do not know how true this is and can not vouch for the veracity of the article. I'm not posting this as an accusatory statement. Posting it as food for thought, nothing more. It's up to you, the individual reader, to take fwiw, dyodd and make of it what you will.

Former Miss Switzerland Beatrice Keul Alleges Donald Trump Raped Her at the Plaza Hotel in 1993​

  • Beatrice Keul alleges Trump raped her at the Plaza Hotel in New York City in November 1993
  • House Democrats’ report details the allegations and examines Trump’s alleged ties to Jeffrey Epstein
  • The White House denies the allegations, saying they are untrue and Trump has been “fully exonerated” in connection with Epstein
Former Miss Switzerland Beatrice Keul alleges that President Donald Trump raped her at the Plaza Hotel in New York City in November 1993, according to a new report released by Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee examining Trump’s alleged ties to Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking operation.

The report presents Keul’s account in detail for the first time and alleges that Trump, Epstein and others used the Donald J. Trump American Dream Pageant, a competition for young women ages 16 to 22, as a “‘hunting ground’ to prey on vulnerable young women and girls.”

Read the rest here:

 
chieftain said:
I think you need to look beyond Epstein and his immediate crimes. His victims aren't that numerous
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I think you need to do your homework.

There's been at least 1200 victims identified by the Justice department.
 
chieftain said:
The crimes of those behind the gates are orders of magnitude greater/worse.
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Point is, until some/all of them are willing to name names, nothing's going to happen.
....and 1200 people are quite a group that would in fact have a voice. They'd be treated like royalty on the talk show circuit and all of us would know the names, if only they'd come forward.
 
Joe King said:
Point is, until some/all of them are willing to name names, nothing's going to happen.
....and 1200 people are quite a group that would in fact have a voice. They'd be treated like royalty on the talk show circuit and all of us would know the names, if only they'd come forward.
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There's something many don't realise about the goings on behind the gate.

The ramifications of the gate being opened are massive. So massive that the elite are expending resources they never thought they would have to to keep the gate shut. The talk show circuit... Hollywood. They'd be cancelled the moment it became known a victim from inside the gates was coming on.

Not only that, how many millions of kids are missing worldwide, never found. The people that go about finding them come to some "unfortunate accident". In Australia, for every actively investigated (or cold) case of a missing child, there are over 100 where the cops are AWOL and told to keep away under threat of punishment over and above being fired.

Exposure (and disclosure) will destroy the elite, they know it. If a surviving victim or two come out (and that's all it would take), the dam bursts.
 
chieftain said:
There's something many don't realise about the goings on behind the gate.

The ramifications of the gate being opened are massive. So massive that the elite are expending resources they never thought they would have to to keep the gate shut. The talk show circuit... Hollywood. They'd be cancelled the moment it became known a victim from inside the gates was coming on.

Not only that, how many millions of kids are missing worldwide, never found. The people that go about finding them come to some "unfortunate accident". In Australia, for every actively investigated (or cold) case of a missing child, there are over 100 where the cops are AWOL and told to keep away under threat of punishment over and above being fired.

Exposure (and disclosure) will destroy the elite, they know it. If a surviving victim or two come out (and that's all it would take), the dam bursts.
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None of that explains why they don't name names.

The reason I think they don't, is because they were all well paid to be part of it. Ie: they were Epstein's employees. Ie: willing.
 
Joe King said:
There's more than 1000 victims supposedly. They can't kill all of 'em, and it still stands that without someone on a witness stand saying "that man did x to me", nothing is gonna happen.

I'm just saying it's silly to expect the gov to go after people with no victim willing to testify against them.
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Impale one the others will keep quiet.
 

Classified material missing from Epstein files, documents suggest​

Attorney General Todd Blanche has long maintained that the so-called Epstein files, even those kept from the public, contain no secret information related to national security.

When the document releases began last winter, Blanche noted that the Epstein Files Transparency Act authorized withholding information in the interest of national security or foreign policy, but said, "no files are being withheld or redacted on that basis."

"There's not some tranche of super-secret documents about Jeffrey Epstein that we're withholding, we're actually not withholding anything based upon [national defense information]," said Blanche, who was deputy attorney general at the time.

Read the full article:

www.cbsnews.com

Classified material missing from Epstein files, documents suggest

Missing pages and a reference to classified documents contradict the Justice Department's claims about the Epstein files.
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Katie Phang scores major appeals court win as judges reject Trump DOJ’s Epstein files delay​

The Trump regime just suffered another courtroom defeat in its battle over the release of Jeffrey Epstein-related documents, and this time, it came at the hands of a federal appeals court.

On Wednesday, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit rejected an emergency request from Attorney General Todd Blanche to pause a review of foreign-language documents under the Epstein Files Transparency Act, delivering a significant victory to attorney and MeidasTouch host Katie Phang.

The ruling, issued by Chief Judge Sri Srinivasan and Circuit Judges Cornelia Pillard and Florence Pan, denied the Justice Department’s motion for a stay pending appeal, finding that the government failed to meet the stringent legal requirements necessary to justify halting the process.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...tein-files-delay/ar-AA2ghBiB?ocid=socialshare
 
Again, if the victims want justice, they need to name names.

When has the gov ever prosecuted anyone for stuff like that without a victim to say, "that man/men touched me".?

Never, that I've ever known of.

It's as though people think there is some smoking gun type of evidence that the gov already has that would be strong enough on its own that would serve to convict people without any victims needing testify.



I want any Epstein co-conspirators convicted too, but to think that it'll be done only if the gov releases a paper with someone's name on it, is kinda silly. That's not how these kind of cases work.

It always starts with a victim willing to publicly testify.
 
This is spot on!


There is tons of disinformation and misunderstanding around the “Epstein Files.”

Conspiracy theorists believe Epstein had evidence or videos of prominent figures having sex with children or underage girls that he kept for purposes of blackmail. Epstein did have hidden cameras in his bedrooms that he used to record videos of himself having sex with girls, possibly without the knowledge of the girls, but there is no evidence that he possessed blackmail dossiers on prominent figures.

“The Epstein Files” are the documents collected from Epstein and his associates in the course of investigations into his wrongdoing — mostly his emails. He emailed a lot of people. He used email in the 2000s and 2010s the way people use text messages today.

People conflate “The Epstein Files,” which are documents related to the Epstein investigation, with Epstein’s rumored blackmail files, which do not exist. So, when people say someone is “in the Epstein files,” all that means is that Epstein emailed that person or mentioned them in an email to someone else, but that is often misinterpreted as suggesting Epstein had blackmail files on that person. But people think it means that person is implicated in having sex with children.

For example, the Hollywood talent agent Casey Wasserman was forced to sell his talent agency because he “appeared in the Epstein files.” Wasserman did not know Epstein or correspond with him, but he exchanged flirty emails Ghislaine Maxwell in 2002 or 2003, and Maxwell’s emails are part of the Epstein investigation files.

Maxwell was in her early 40s at the time of this correspondence, and had not been publicly implicated in any wrongdoing when Wasserman emailed her, so he is not actually accused of doing anything illegal or improper by trying to hook up with Ghislaine, but the taint of “being in the Epstein files” destroyed Wasserman’s reputation and caused his agencies clients to flee out of fear of being associated with Epstein.

Similarly, people will say “Donald Trump’s name appears hundreds of times in the Epstein files,” and that just means Epstein, who was a Democratic donor, sent hundreds of emails to various people complaining about Trump during Trump’s first term.




So... the Epstein files really are a NOTHING BURGER, but folks sure get their panties in a bundle over them!
 
Congresscritters that have actually seen the unreleased files tell a different story.
 
Pretty sure Maxwell is in prison for pimpin. There sure is a lot of pushback for a nothing burger as well. Also, since trump lied about everything I have to assume he is lying about the Epstein files as well.
 
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