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Not buying it they had to know.
I liked this one...
They don’t speak about the elephant in the room. They are Europeans that came to Palestine and conquered. True, there were some Jews living there already. And many Jews that did come from Europe legitimately bought land. But the Israeli borders have been expanding for decades, through violence and displacement of the indigenous peoples.
1960’s? No, that area has been called Palestine for hundreds (thousands?) of years. There are Semitic people That have been there for a long time. Those are Jews, Palestinians, Bedouins, etc.Palestine has only been in existence since the 60s. The Jews claim a civilised presents in the area for a much much longer time than that. The idea that it all came about with the British in the 40s isnt accurate.
There's also the question of this imbalance in attitude. As I understand it the Jews have made a number of offers for a Palestinian nation state but the Palestinians just want to eliminate the Jews totally. How do you deal with something when it just wants you dead?
White House clarifies Biden atrocity comments
By Ben CubbyA White House spokesman has said that US President Joe Biden had not seen photos showing atrocities against children and had based comments he made about the issue on Israeli media reports and comments from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s spokesman.
Biden said late on Wednesday: “I’ve been doing this a long time, and I never really thought that I would see or have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children.”
Gruesome reports that Hamas beheaded children in the Kfar Aza kibbutz circulated rapidly, however Hamas described the accusations as “fabricated and baseless”.
In response to questions from The Washington Post, the Israeli Defence Forces declined to comment on the state of the victims’ bodies.
1960’s? No, that area has been called Palestine for hundreds (thousands?) of years. There are Semitic people That have been there for a long time. Those are Jews, Palestinians, Bedouins, etc.
Ashkenazi Jews are from Europe and not Semitic.
Zed, I highly recommend you read a book called "The Palestinian Catastrophe" by Michael Palumbo if you want a better understanding of the history and why Palestinians are the way they are. Much of what you seem to believe about Palestine and it's history derives from Zionist propaganda.That is to say that the idea that the Arabs are the indigenous people is hotly disputed. The Arabs in the area were nomadic while the Jews had organized civilization.
I don't know, but given the fact that the Palestinians won't negotiate a settlement I kind of feel for the Jewish side of the argument. You can't expect them not to be aggressive when you just want them dead and gone. I think the Palestinians have bought themselves a problem here.
I personally know people who still have title deeds issued by the Ottomans for property in Palestine that was stolen by Israelis. As in, a group of Israelis walked into their house one day with guns and told them to get out, that the house now belonged to them. There were nomads, but there were plenty of settled people as well. Both Christian and Muslim who were driven out of homes and properties their families had lived in for centuries.My understanding is that the Palestinian national identity really only surfaced in the 60's, prior to that, well it was a long messy history...
The region known as Palestine has a long and complex history characterized by the presence and rule of various ethnic and religious groups over time. It has not been under constant occupation by any single ethnic group. Instead, the area has seen a succession of different rulers and occupiers over the centuries. Here is a brief overview of some of the key occupiers and rulers in the region:
The region's history is marked by a series of transitions and shifts in governance, with various ethnic and religious groups living in the area at different times. It has been a crossroads of different civilizations and cultures throughout history, and the complex historical and political landscape has contributed to the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
- Ancient Empires: The land of Palestine was inhabited by various peoples, including the Canaanites, Israelites, Philistines, and others. It came under the control of various ancient empires, including the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, and Romans at different times.
- Byzantine and Islamic Rule: In the early Christian era, the region became part of the Byzantine Empire. In the 7th century, it was conquered by the Islamic Caliphate.
- Crusader Period: During the Middle Ages, the region was under the rule of various Crusader states and European Christian kingdoms.
- Ottoman Empire: From the 16th century until the early 20th century, Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire.
- British Mandate: After World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain a mandate to govern Palestine, leading to British rule from 1920 until 1948.
- Establishment of Israel: In 1948, Israel was established, leading to the displacement of Palestinian Arab communities and the beginning of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
- Israeli Control and Occupation: Since 1948, Israel has controlled various parts of the former British Mandate of Palestine, including West Jerusalem, and later, the West Bank and Gaza Strip following the Six-Day War in 1967.
- Palestinian National Authority: The Oslo Accords in the 1990s led to the establishment of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) in parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, although Israel maintained significant control over these areas.
So, yeah, I guess it was a name and an area but not a nation state with a consistent population. I'm told that the bulk of the Arabs in the area were nomadic, and they came and went as it suited.
Moonwalk like Michael Jackson. So Jihad Day is Saturday. Hoping to be wrong and these misfits that flooded in to the US don't start some $hit here. Might be a good excuse to initiate martial law. Hope I am overreacting.Biden showing yet again just how much of a liability he is: