Trump Evacuated As Shots Fired at White House Correspondents' Dinner, Shooter Dead

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foolsgold said:
Only idiots would believe Trumps assassination attempt in Butler PA was staged.
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A very special kind of idiot. lol

foolsgold said:
I think anybody that wants the president of the US to be assassinated is scum.
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Absolutely! Anyone who wants anyone to be killed, is scum. I hated Biden as potus, but I sure as f' didn't want him to get shot.

foolsgold said:
You don't think a deranged democrat was behind it?
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Who else would be? Ya calll someone "lterally Hitler!" for a Decade and eventually a braindead TDSer will try to go for it.
 
Liberal and Progressive AHs are convinced the assassination attempt was staged.

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Rep. Hakeem Jeffries claps back at Trump press secretary, who blamed WHCD shooting on Democrats​

The U.S. House of Representatives Democratic leader called Karoline Leavitt a “disgrace” and a “stone-cold liar.”

U.S. Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., the Democratic leader of the U.S. House of Representatives, clapped back at White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt after the spokesperson for President Donald Trump blamed him and other Democrats for the White House Correspondents’ Dinner shooting this past weekend.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ing-on-democrats/ar-AA21S3f1?ocid=socialshare
 
Here we have a president who berates, belittles a female reporter for simply doing here job. Want to lower the temp............let it start with T.

 
Searcher - there is a difference between Trump's petulant behavior and dismissive rhetoric and outright calls and thinly veiled dog whistles for assassination that Dems have promulgated over the last few months.
 
pmbug said:
thinly veiled dog whistles for assassination that Dems have promulgated over the last few months
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I'm a bit a news junkie and haven't come across thinly veiled dog whistles for assassination by dems. Can you point out a few?

On the other hand T has berated, belittled, called people names for no reason, laughed at Pelosi's husband after he was attacked and beaten with a hammer, relished in R Muller's death, called for violence against all sorts of people he doesn't like, started a war where people have been injured and killed against people who are no threat to the U.S. and on and on.

Not being funny or argumentative but I would like to see where any D politician has called for T's demise.
 
I did not bookmark them on my computer. Just noted them as I saw them. Duckduckgo AI says:

Controversial Statements by Democratic Officials​

Several Democratic officials have made statements that have been interpreted as calls for violence against Donald Trump. Here are notable examples:

Specific Incidents​

DateOfficial/PositionStatement Summary
January 2025Bill Swift, Lenawee County Democratic Party ChairmanSuggested that Trump supporters should be hanged, calling Trump an "illegitimate" president.
July 2024Various Democratic lawmakersSome expressed controversial views following an assassination attempt on Trump, with comments that were later walked back.

Reactions and Outrage​

  • Public Backlash: These statements have led to significant outrage from both political opponents and within the Democratic Party itself.
  • Condemnation: Many political figures, including members of the Tennessee Democratic Party, have condemned such rhetoric, emphasizing that there is no place for political violence in America.
These incidents highlight the divisive nature of current political discourse and the extreme reactions that can arise in response to political figures.
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Grok:
Here are notable examples of statements or actions by Democrats (elected officials, party figures, or prominent allies) that critics have cited as direct calls for violence/death against Donald Trump or his supporters, or as dogwhistles implying the same. These are drawn from public records, with full context where available. Explicit calls for Trump's assassination from top national Democratic leaders are rare and not representative of official party positions—most involve heated rhetoric, metaphors, or post-assassination-attempt reactions that were widely condemned (including by other Democrats). Many were later walked back, apologized for, or defended as non-literal.

bbc.com
Joe Biden (July 2024)In a private call with Democratic donors days before the first assassination attempt on Trump (July 13, 2024), President Biden said: “We’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye.”

politico.com
He later called the wording a “mistake” in an NBC interview, clarifying he meant “focus on” Trump’s policies and record, not literal violence: “I didn’t say crosshairs. I meant focus on him.”

cnbc.com
Republicans, including House Speaker Mike Johnson, accused it of inciting the attempt; Biden condemned the shooting.Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA, 2018)At a rally, Waters urged: “If you see anybody from [President Trump’s] cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome anymore, anywhere.”

facebook.com
Critics called this incitement to harassment/violence; it led to resolutions attempting to censure or expel her (which failed). Waters said she was not encouraging violence.

factcheck.org
Kathy Griffin (prominent comedian and Democrat ally, 2017)Griffin posted a photo of herself holding a bloody, fake severed head resembling Trump, captioned with a reference to Trump’s own past comments. She called it political satire/art. It triggered a Secret Service investigation; she was fired by CNN, faced widespread backlash (including from Democrats), apologized (“I went too far”), and later said she had no regrets in some contexts.

wilx.com +1
Hillary Clinton (2018)In a CNN interview, Clinton said: “You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about… That’s why I believe, if we are fortunate enough to win back the House and or the Senate, that’s when civility can start again.”

cnn.com
Critics labeled it a rejection of civility and a dogwhistle for aggressive “resistance.” Clinton framed it as electoral strategy against what she saw as an ideological threat.Local Democratic Party Official: Lenawee County (MI) Chairman Bill Swift (2025)After Trump’s inauguration, Swift (on a radio call and party social media) called Trump an “illegitimately… elected insurrectionist president” who ran on “Nazi rhetoric” and labeled ICE agents “Nazi collaborators.” He highlighted/endorsed a party post stating Trump supporters “trying to make Donald Trump King” are “traitor(s) who should be hanged by the neck until dead.”

senatorjosephbellino.com +1
Michigan Republicans (e.g., Sen. Joseph Bellino) demanded his resignation; no broad Democratic condemnation is noted in reports. This is one of the most explicit recent calls for execution of Trump supporters.Post-July 2024 Assassination Attempt Reactions by Democratic Elected Officials
  • Colorado State Rep. Steven Woodrow (D): Minutes after the Butler, PA shooting (which wounded Trump, killed one attendee, and injured others), he posted: “The last thing America needed was sympathy for the devil but here we are.” He deleted his account and apologized, calling it “inarticulate” and saying his words caused “additional pain.”

    denverpost.com
  • Tennessee State Rep. Antonio Parkinson (D): Posted “I certainly hope this is not a staged act. But…” (with eye-roll emoji), then walked it back, condemning violence and noting national division.

    tennesseelookout.com
Broader Context on DogwhistlingCritics often point to repeated Democratic framing of Trump as an “existential threat to democracy,” “Hitler,” “fascist,” or “Nazi” (e.g., by party officials or allies) as creating a permissive environment for violence—implying he must be stopped “by any means.” A 2024 Manhattan Institute poll (using list experiments to reduce social-desirability bias) found roughly a third of Democratic voters agreed with “I wish Trump’s assassin hadn’t missed” in the immediate aftermath of the July attempt (though two-thirds explicitly rejected it).

manhattan.institute
Fact-checks frequently note that many viral “Dems inciting violence” clips are taken out of context or predate specific events.

factcheck.afp.com
These examples are frequently compiled in conservative media as evidence of one-sided incitement (e.g., YouTube roundups titled “Every Time Democrats Called for Violence Against Trump”).

youtube.com
In reality, both parties have used inflammatory language, and studies show political violence threats have risen across the spectrum—with Trump himself disproportionately targeted in some datasets.

isdglobal.org
Direct calls for death remain fringe or rhetorical excesses rather than mainstream Democratic policy.
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I guess both sides are guilty. We all need to bring the temp down.
 
searcher said:
I guess both sides are guilty. We all need to bring the temp down.
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Okay but which side is doing the Shooting?

Refresh my memory I have forgotten when republicans/conservatives shot at liberal/progressive/democrats.
 
foolsgold said:
Okay but which side is doing the Shooting?

Refresh my memory I have forgotten when republicans/conservatives shot at liberal/progressive/democrats.
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Both.

When it comes to politicians R and D are both guilty of the inciteful rhetoric.

As for newscasters, media peeps I don't think r or d really matters. They cater to a certain audience for $$$$$.

Now as to the actual shooters........forget r or d because you're dealing with fools and loons.

In this particular thread we're dealing with a 31 year old college educated fellow who had everything to live for. His life is now over and he will never be a free man again. And it was all for nothing. And he kinda cast a bad shadow over his family. Not good, bad juju.

Now as for me, I really don't take my political posts too seriously. It's fun to see the replies but nothing I post here will change one thing and I know it. And I realize the only say I really have is when I vote. After that I'm done.
 
searcher said:
Both.

When it comes to politicians R and D are both guilty of the inciteful rhetoric.

As for newscasters, media peeps I don't think r or d really matters. They cater to a certain audience for $$$$$.

Now as to the actual shooters........forget r or d because you're dealing with fools and loons.

In this particular thread we're dealing with a 31 year old college educated fellow who had everything to live for. His life is now over and he will never be a free man again. And it was all for nothing. And he kinda cast a bad shadow over his family. Not good, bad juju.

Now as for me, I really don't take my political posts too seriously. It's fun to see the replies but nothing I post here will change one thing and I know it. And I realize the only say I really have is when I vote. After that I'm done.
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I asked a VERY specific question which you avoided. If you respond please answer my question.

Refresh my memory I have forgotten when republicans/conservatives shot at liberal/progressive/democrats.
 
Only violence against Dems that I recall off hand wasn't a shooting, it was the hammer attack on Pelosi's husband.
 
pmbug said:
Only violence against Dems that I recall off hand wasn't a shooting, it was the hammer attack on Pelosi's husband.
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Right and that was deranged idiot and can hardly be characterized as an attack against democrats by republicans.

But thank you for a direct answer!!!
 
foolsgold said:
I asked a VERY specific question which you avoided. If you respond please answer my question.

Refresh my memory I have forgotten when republicans/conservatives shot at liberal/progressive/democrats.
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I couldn't simply come up with this on my own so I asked Grok. Here's the reply. It's a bit of a mix.

Political violence involving gunfire where Republicans/conservatives targeted liberals/progressives/Democrats has been relatively rare in modern U.S. history compared to the reverse or other categories of violence. Most high-profile shootings of politicians or public figures in recent decades have involved attackers with left-leaning or anti-Republican motives, or unclear/mental health-driven ones not neatly fitting partisan "conservative vs. liberal" framing. Political violence overall remains uncommon relative to total U.S. crime, though threats and incidents have risen amid polarization.

cato.org
Documented CasesHere are notable verified examples involving conservatives/Republicans shooting at or targeting Democrats/liberals/progressives:
  • 1998: Assassination of Tennessee State Senator Tommy Burks — Democratic state senator Tommy Burks was running for re-election when he was shot and killed by Byron Looper, a Republican who was also running against him for the seat. This was a direct political rivalry killing. Looper was convicted.

    en.wikipedia.org
  • 2022: Solomon Peña drive-by shootings in New Mexico — Failed Republican candidate Solomon Peña orchestrated multiple drive-by shootings targeting the homes of Democratic politicians and officials after claiming his election loss was "rigged." No one was killed, but it was explicitly retaliatory political violence. He was convicted.

    azcentral.com
Other incidents sometimes cited in broader discussions (e.g., certain neighbor disputes or individual acts by self-described conservatives) tend to be personal, mental-health related, or not clearly ideologically driven "conservative shoots liberal" attacks on public figures. High-casualty mass shootings motivated by right-wing ideology (e.g., some targeting minorities or immigrants) exist but are usually not framed as direct partisan attacks on "Democrats" as a group in the same way as targeted political shootings.Broader Context on Political Shootings
  • 2017 Congressional Baseball Shooting: A left-wing radical (James Hodgkinson, vocal Trump critic) targeted Republican congressmen at a baseball practice in Alexandria, VA, shooting Rep. Steve Scalise (R) and others. This was explicitly partisan.

    britannica.com
  • 2011 Tucson Shooting: Jared Loughner shot Rep. Gabby Giffords (D) and killed six others. Motive was complex (mental illness, conspiracy beliefs); not a clean "conservative vs. liberal" hit.
  • 2022 Paul Pelosi Attack: David DePape (with right-wing conspiracy ties) broke into Nancy Pelosi's home and attacked her husband with a hammer—not gunfire, but politically motivated.
  • 2025 Minnesota Shootings: A gunman (described in reports as a Trump supporter with conservative/Christian views) targeted Democratic state lawmakers, killing Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband and wounding Sen. John Hoffman and his wife. He reportedly had a "hit list" of Democrats.

    npr.org
  • Recent trends (2024-2025): Assassination attempts on Donald Trump (Republican) drew significant attention. The 2025 killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk was carried out by a shooter with apparent left-leaning political disagreement.

    christianpost.com
Studies on ideologically motivated homicides and terrorism in the U.S. (post-1970s/1990s data) generally show right-wing extremists responsible for more total deaths than left-wing ones over long periods, often via targeted killings, mass shootings, or plots tied to race, immigration, or anti-government views. However, left-wing violence has included more property damage, riots, or specific partisan attacks (e.g., against Republicans or police). Islamist terrorism accounts for a large share of fatalities in some datasets. Numbers are small overall, and classifications vary by source (e.g., whether to count hate crimes, lone actors, or mental illness cases). Fatalities from left-wing attacks are lower in many analyses, but incidents have fluctuated (e.g., higher left-wing activity in certain recent years).

en.wikipedia.org
Key Patterns
  • Asymmetry: Attacks on Republican figures (e.g., Scalise practice, Trump attempts, Kirk) often involve perpetrators with explicit anti-conservative or left-leaning grievances. Attacks flowing the other direction (conservatives targeting Democrats) are fewer in high-profile gun incidents against politicians.
  • Common factors: Mental health issues, personal grudges, conspiracy thinking, and online radicalization appear frequently on both sides. Purely "partisan soldier" shootings are exceptional.
  • Historical note: Pre-20th century or Reconstruction-era violence (e.g., KKK targeting Black Republicans or officials) involved Democrats and racial motives more than modern left-right framing. Modern data focuses on post-1990 or post-9/11 extremism.
Political violence is condemned across the spectrum and remains rare—most Americans reject it. Databases from groups like the Global Terrorism Database, ADL, CSIS, or GAO show it's a tiny fraction of overall murders. Polarization and social media amplify perceptions and threats. For deeper stats, sources like Cato Institute analyses or START/UMD extremism trackers provide longitudinal data, though definitions of "right-wing" vs. "left-wing" can differ.
 
As uncomfortable as it may be, it's nice when we are truthful with one another.

Thanks PMBUG!!
 
The first and most obvious of these concerns is that many Americans, including myself, have grown so accustomed to being deceived that we no longer know precisely whom we can trust and what we can believe. As a consequence, we’ve become inclined to doubt everything the government tells us.
TheGuardian

Most of us know that we are not hearing the full story about the war in Iran and that the true villains in the Epstein scandal have remained unindicted. We’ve watched present and former cabinet members – Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem, Robert F Kennedy Jr and others – refusing to answer direct questions during congressional hearings, inquiries that would have led to the exposure of a wide range of purposely orchestrated and deeply disturbing cover-ups and distortions.

What’s equally disturbing is how this latest incident illustrates the horrifying degree to which violence in general and political violence in particular have been normalized. Massacres and school shootings rarely make the headlines unless the body count is exceptionally high.

Again and again, our political leaders and cultural figures have been caught in lies ranging from the trivial to the catastrophic, exposed for misrepresenting the truth in ways intended to conceal previous misrepresentations.
 
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If I could I'd copy and past the above post as a sticky here in the politics section (y)
 
Bottom Feeder said:
Again and again, our political leaders and cultural figures have been caught in lies ranging from the trivial to the catastrophic, exposed for misrepresenting the truth in ways intended to conceal previous misrepresentations.
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I couldn't agree more and this is true for all political parties.

And I'll say it again, we not being politicians, it nice when we are truthful with one another.
 
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