Unrest in Israel (Hamas war)

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Fatrat said:
Of course, that's why everyone wants there own nukes...
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Is there proof? Of course that is playing [devil’s] advocate, but it goes both ways. If Gaza has missiles, where do they come from? If Yemen is really firing missiles, where do they come from?
Were there really boogie men that lost hands to explosive pagers or is there not really any boogie men?

If everyone there really wants their own nukes, then aren’t they trying to build them.

Some where the logic on this forum gets lost
 
Gaza has glorified bottle rockets, basically noise makers...both Syria and Iraq were trying to make nukes and Israel bombed them..Google it.
 
Fatrat said:
Yup, but the refueling was already over there...Israel taking a worse whipping than they are prepared to take, screaming like little bitchez.
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If any of Irans missiles take out the missile defense system Israel is forked. Iran has about 3000 missiles. China landed a cargo plane in Iran tonight as well. Wonder what's on there.

Markets don't seem to give a shit tonight.
 
Trump must obey, but he is making a great show of things...Israel getting an ass whipping.
 
KnowWhy said:
Does Israel have nukes?
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200 I hear. That's a few.

GROK:
Estimates of Israel's nuclear arsenal vary widely due to its policy of nuclear opacity, where it neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear weapons. Based on available information, the number of nuclear warheads is estimated to be between 80 and 400:
Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI): Estimates Israel has approximately 90 nuclear warheads, with 50 assigned to Jericho ballistic missiles and 30 as gravity bombs for aircraft delivery.

Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (2013): Cited U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency sources, stating Israel has 80 nuclear warheads and enough fissile material for up to 190 more. Production is said to have started in 1967 and stopped in 2004, averaging two warheads per year.

Federation of American Scientists (FAS) and Natural Resources Defense Council: Suggest a range of 80 to 400 nuclear weapons.

Mordechai Vanunu (1986): A former technician at the Negev Nuclear Research Center, Vanunu claimed Israel had 100 to 200 nuclear devices based on a reactor producing 40 kg of plutonium annually.

Jimmy Carter (2014): Former U.S. President stated Israel might have "300 or more" nuclear weapons, though he noted the exact number is unknown.

International Panel on Fissile Materials (2021): Estimated Israel has 300 kg of highly enriched uranium and 980 kg of weapons-grade plutonium, potentially enough for 180–515 warheads, depending on technical sophistication (2–6 kg of plutonium per warhead).

Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation: Suggests around 90 plutonium-based warheads, with enough plutonium for 100–200 weapons.

The Guardian (2010): Cited South African documents from 1975 allegedly confirming Israel's nuclear arsenal, though no specific number was provided.

X Posts: Some posts claim Israel has 90 to over 300 warheads, but these are unverified and reflect speculative sentiment rather than confirmed data.

The most commonly cited figure is around 90 warheads, primarily based on SIPRI and FAS estimates, with delivery systems including Jericho missiles, aircraft, and possibly submarine-launched cruise missiles. However, precise numbers remain speculative due to Israel's lack of official disclosure and restricted access to facilities like the Dimona reactor, which is not under IAEA safeguards.

Critical Note: These estimates rely on indirect sources, declassified documents, and whistleblower accounts like Vanunu’s, which may be outdated or incomplete. Israel’s policy of ambiguity and limited international inspections make definitive counts challenging, and some sources may reflect biases or unverified assumptions. Always cross-reference such data with primary evidence where possible.
 
I'm not at my computer, but Trump just posted an ominous note on Truth Social saying everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran. Are they going to drop a nuke? :paperbag:
 
pmbug said:
I'm not at my computer, but Trump just posted an ominous note on Truth Social saying everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran. Are they going to drop a nuke? :paperbag:
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How insanely ironic would that be? LOL. We cant let Iran get a nuke so we have to nuke them?
Someone at the UN was saying earlier that Iran is the most inspected nuclear site on the planet and yet has 0 evidence of a nuclear bomb being worked on. Same as US intelligence agencies.

China and Russia telling citizens to get out of Israel. I haven't heard either say they want to get involved so that's good. So far anyway.
 
Why are there nuclear sites so deep underground it would take multiple successive bunker busters to reach if there aren’t any nuclear sites underground?

Why is no proof of Iran’s nuke program not the same as no proof of Israel’s nuke program?

Why is “colonizing” such a buzzword of the greta crowd?

Ask grok if Iran is developing nukes.

Iran wants nukes like Israel has nukes, but Iran doesn’t try to develop them.

Guy’s should be thinking more critically
 
Voodoo said:
Sums it up quickly.

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A real shame he has to use profanity to express his opinion.

Because of it, his cherished opinion will NEVER make it on the MSM where it could gain traction.

Tired of every gutter speech is laced with useless profanity.



"Profanity is the sign of a weak mind attempting to express itself forcibly...".
 
KnowWhy said:
Why is no proof of Iran’s nuke program not the same as no proof of Israel’s nuke program?
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asked the very same question...

DOGEai:
Israel isn’t party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, so IAEA inspections don’t apply—unlike Iran, which signed the NPT but blocked inspectors from key sites for years. Tehran’s opacity forced this crisis, while Israel’s strategic strikes targeted existential threats, not civilian infrastructure.

The real issue remains regimes that weaponize treaties while pursuing bombs.

GROK:
  • The post questions Israel's exclusion from IAEA inspections, highlighting a surprising geopolitical disparity since Israel, unlike Iran (an NPT signatory), never committed to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, allowing it to maintain an undeclared nuclear arsenal estimated at 80-90 warheads based on 2023 SIPRI data.
  • Iran's recent breaches, including stockpiling 900+ lbs of 60%-enriched uranium by May 2025 (per IAEA reports), triggered international concern, contrasting with Israel's covert program that avoids similar scrutiny, a dynamic rooted in Cold War-era alliances.
  • This asymmetry fuels debate on nuclear accountability, with studies like those in the Journal of Conflict Resolution (2022) suggesting non-NPT states like Israel face less pressure due to strategic partnerships, challenging the narrative of uniform global nuclear oversight.
 
Like the tale of the frog and the scorpion...

If Iran gets blasted into the 17th Century I wouldn't put it past them to dirty up a bevy of missiles and send them over to Israel.

Let them bask in the nuclear glow of dirty bomb residue for 25 centuries...?
 
Goldhedge said:
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KnowWhy said:
Why are there nuclear sites so deep underground it would take multiple successive bunker busters to reach if there aren’t any nuclear sites underground?

Why is no proof of Iran’s nuke program not the same as no proof of Israel’s nuke program?

Why is “colonizing” such a buzzword of the greta crowd?

Ask grok if Iran is developing nukes.

Iran wants nukes like Israel has nukes, but Iran doesn’t try to develop them.

Guy’s should be thinking more critically
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I think when Trump violated the deal, Iran started to up the enrichment of uranium fuel, but still were far away from nuke weapon level. Now they are close enough to make actual nuke weapon, not just a dirty bomb. As for israel, it has no right to exist especially if America has to support it.
 
Goldhedge said:
Like the tale of the frog and the scorpion...

If Iran gets blasted into the 17th Century I wouldn't put it past them to dirty up a bevy of missiles and send them over to Israel.

Let them bask in the nuclear glow of dirty bomb residue for 25 centuries...?
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Great idea, no israel, no more welfare for israel...
 
Wasn't this one of the scenarios thrown about for a couple of decades now? When the world reaches maximum debt levels it has to reset and uses WW3 as an excuse.
 
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