US debt ceiling, gov shutdown and Speaker of the House fight

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Government shutdown live updates: Stalemate to last at least three days​

The United States government shut down early Wednesday morning, setting the stage for the furlough of hundreds of thousands of federal workers and the shuttering of a slew of key programs and services.

Here’s what to know:

  • The full shutdown began after top Democrats and Republicans, including President Donald Trump, failed to agree on a short-term deal to keep the government funded.
  • Democrats, led by Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, demand that any stopgap funding measure include an extension of enhanced Obamacare tax credits.
  • Trump suggested Tuesday that his administration could take major actions during a shutdown, including cutting government benefits for “large numbers of people.”
  • The Senate once again failed to pass dueling Republican and Democratic funding proposals.
  • Here’s how key federal agencies are being affected by the shutdown.
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Found this on a different forum. Found it interesting. I'm going to quote the poster and include his link.

Posted with permission:

"Nothing much to see. Had a shutdown the last time Trump was president so everyone knows how this works. Supposed to be about saving money but no mention of the 279 Billion dollars a DAY being spent in the ‘defense’ budget’. This shutdown is part of Project 2025 which is proceeding rapidly and can be tracked online. OMB director Vought was the architect of that plan. Read the tracker to follow the game."


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One Day and Shut Down

Government shutdown? Already blocked. Too bad the government can’t work that fast. 😁
forum.gcaptain.com

See post # 2
 
Also helps keeps that pesky Democrat from being sworn into office and the release of the Epstein files...

House Democrats press Johnson on swearing in Adelita Grijalva on Friday​

 
searcher said:
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Yeah.

Impeached THREE times, too. On obviously-fraudulent DNC-curated "evidence."

Where Barry with his pen and phone, was never challenged. Rule by Speech. Vote for the bill to find out what's in it.

And, of course, Autopen, with the Magic Money Machines and Ten-Percent-fer-da-Big-Guy. No impeachment THERE....

Yes, Pondscum, I do see a pattern there.
 

Farmers union president describes the impact of a government shutdown​

Oct 2, 2025
Farmers are grappling with the impact of the Trump administration tariffs and the ongoing government shutdown. Minnesota Farmers Union President Gary Wertish joins CBS News with more.

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Government shutdown hits air travel, closing a control tower and causing delays across the country​

Washington —
A pilot preparing to take off Monday from Hollywood Burbank Airport in California took the routine step of radioing the air traffic control tower.

But instead of the usual back-and-forth conversation of coordinating departure, the pilot received a different response: “The tower is closed due to staffing,” according to audio recorded by LiveATC.net.

The exchange is one example of the impact the ongoing government shutdown is having on travelers across the US as air traffic controller staffing issues have led to delays at major airports and forced pilots in some areas to pivot to alternative workflows.

Controllers are considered essential workers, so they must work during the shutdown, but are not being paid.

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What Project 2025 Has To Do With This Government Shutdown​

Oct 7, 2025 #cnbc
The government may fire thousands of unionized federal workers during the shutdown that began in October. This effort was foreshadowed in Project 2025, what some consider a blueprint for conservative governance. Several authors from the document are now senior-level members of the Trump administration. CNBC spoke with one who believes the federal workforce needs to change. Their efforts could reshape the federal bureaucracy, but do little to alter the country’s financial outlook.

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Trump suggests not all furloughed workers will get back pay: ‘It depends’​

  • President Donald Trump suggested some federal workers who have been furloughed during the government shutdown will not receive back pay.
  • The remark came hours after the circulation of a draft White House memo arguing that federal employees placed on unpaid leave are not guaranteed retroactive pay.
  • The memo has been viewed as an attempt to ratchet up pressure on Senate Democrats to vote for Republicans’ proposal to reopen the government.
President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that some federal workers who have been furloughed during the government shutdown will not receive back pay after they return to work.

The remark came hours after the circulation of a draft White House memo arguing that federal employees placed on unpaid leave are not guaranteed back pay.

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We had to work thru the shut downs, cause we were going to get paid...irked me off cause I wanted the free vacation.
 

Congressional leaders offer support for furloughed federal workers receiving back pay​

Congressional Republican leaders are hopeful that furloughed workers will receive back pay at the conclusion of the government shutdown, responding to news that legal analysts are scrutinizing whether government workers will receive compensation for time off.

Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) and Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) acknowledged that experts may be scrutinizing the 2019 federal law that requires federal employees to receive back pay. The comments come after the distribution of a memo from the White House's Office of Management and Budget arguing there is a loophole in the law.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ceiving-back-pay/ar-AA1O29RQ?ocid=socialshare
 
Massie is turning out to be one of the good guys.

And he's got a leaden curtain of silence draped over him, from the meⒹia.

I hope somehow he finds his way out of it, a way to get word out to the public...
 
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What is there to negotiate about?

Schmuck Choomer wants ILLEGALS to have access to subsidized programs - costing resources of programs INTENDED FOR CITIZENS.

People who were ILLEGALLY brought in, are then supposed to be cared for courtesy of OUR MONEY? Not even tax dollars, not directly. Print the money and tax everyone...the poor worst of all.

THIS...is an argument for NEGOTIATION? What in HELL are DemocRats, and Gnu Yarkers, even THINKING.
 
Who do they think they are ? Americans living in Israel? Disgusting!
 

Trump administration begins layoffs of federal workers amid government shutdown​

  • The Trump administration began laying off federal workers on Friday, the 10th day of the U.S. government shutdown.
  • “The RIFs have begun,” Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought wrote on X, using the acronym for “Reductions in Force.”
  • Unions representing government employees vowed to fight the layoffs with lawsuits.
The Trump administration began laying off federal workers on Friday, the 10th day of the U.S. government shutdown, administration budget chief Russell Vought said in a social media post.

“The RIFs have begun,” Vought wrote on X, using the acronym for “Reductions in Force.”

The Office of Management and Budget, which Vought leads, soon after confirmed that “RIFs have begun and are substantial.”

No other details of the layoffs were immediately released.

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File for unemployment guys...and enjoy the time off.
 
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