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Someone_else said:
I completely reject collective punishment
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Iranian civilians aren't being punished. Other than a few bridges, Trump hasn't ordered the bombing of civilian targets.

When Obozo bombed Libya he hit all manner of civilian targets. Power plants, bridges, anything deemed dual use. Ie: stuff with both military use as well as civilian use.

Same with Clinton in Kosovo.
......and there was no huge outcry about it here.



Someone_else said:
But the Iranian military should be shut down. If that is not possible, their military must be killed.
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Trump's trying to.

IMHO, his biggest mistake in all this was in easing off. Shoulda kept the heat on.
....and the backdoor negotiation requests from Iran while they publicly deny they wanted to talk, didn't help either.

What he should have done was to insist that any request from Iran be done publicly. Otherwise no talking, just bombing.

The Iranians admit they are working hard towards building nukes. I say we should take them at their word.

Does anyone truly believe the World would be a better place with a nuclear armed Iran?






Someone_else said:
I do not accept the Shah's reign in Iran. He was not a legitimate ruler, and his overthrow and death was welcome to history. The Ayatollah was even worse. And his followers were the most despicable.
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It wasn't welcome relative to what replaced it.

The people of Iran got f'ed over.

The majority in Iran do not want what they have as a government, but are powerless to stop it.

Had the Iranian people been given am honest vote as to what would replace the Shah, it sure wouldn't have been for the mofo's runnin' the place now.
 
  • President Donald Trump has demanded reparations from Iran “for the damage they’ve done over a 50-year period.”
  • He also said the U.S. has control of the Strait of Hormuz.
  • The impasse leaves Washington treating its naval presence as a permanent fixture guaranteeing access, while Tehran treating that same presence as the primary obstacle to normalizing traffic.
www.cnbc.com

'That's a good idea': U.S. and Iran trade reparation demands as Hormuz deal hopes fade

The dueling positions Washington and Tehran staked out showed how far apart the two sides remain even as both talked of winding down regional hostilities.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
www.lloydslistintelligence.com

Strait of Hormuz Brief: 12 August 2026

Traffic continues to flow through Strait of Hormuz despite increased kinetic military activity. Preliminary data show 78 transits during 3 to 9 August, down from 95 the previous week. Non-Iranian-linked traffic is above levels seen just after the collapse of the MoU, but a far cry from normal...
www.lloydslistintelligence.com www.lloydslistintelligence.com
 
^^^Wow the israelis are just as capable as the persians of inhuman sadistic crimes, what a revelation.
 
searcher said:
www.navytimes.com

Multiple USS Abraham Lincoln sailors have tried to go overboard amid extended deployment, families say

Multiple sailors aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln have attempted to go overboard as the carrier's deployment stretches into its ninth month.
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More on this:

www.navytimes.com

Senator presses Navy for answers on USS Abraham Lincoln deployment

Sen. Richard Blumenthal distributed a letter on Wednesday requesting that the U.S. Navy account for conditions aboard the carrier USS Abraham Lincoln.
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***Note: I can't speak as to the veracity of this but it sounds plausible to me. With that in mind, take it fwiw, dyodd and make of it what you will.

 
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Who the fu*k actually knows what the hell is actually happening.

Truth is the first casualty of war.
 
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This is worth noting for two key reasons:
1) Iran DOES have gasoline shortfalls from a domestic production vs consumption standpoint
2) A VERY large part of this is due to the fact that Iranian gas costs ~$0.05. This incentivizes overuse and smuggling.

Overuse because you have no tradeoff costs from just driving everywhere/using gasoline constantly and wastefully.

Smuggling because you can purchase it for wildly low prices, and then sell into neighboring countries for easy profits.

It is not the “crisis” many claim it to be (as Greg points out as well).
 
Fatrat said:
You would think we would have a rotation schedule set up, but this war was supposed to be a two-day affair...
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Overstretched.

The Ford is probably still dealing with the "sewage system" problems (whatever REALLY happened).

AND...as with ALL lines of work, all phases of modern life, supervisors (ossifers in the Five-Sided Funny Farm, in this case) have ZERO empathy or appreciation for what goes on on the ground, or in this case, at sea, on the decks.

Probably a bunch of Type F DEI ossifers that the Trumpbots won't fire, even though it's essential they do so.
 
searcher said:
***Note: I can't speak as to the veracity of this but it sounds plausible to me. With that in mind, take it fwiw, dyodd and make of it what you will.

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And if he hadn't chickened out, the Israelis would have killed him...
 
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