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Chigg

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There has been some chatter on the Reditt community board Wallstreetbets that they may go to silver like they did like they did GameStop. Some want to try to screw JP Morgan, some looking for safe haven. I have been on there suggesting they buy physical and take possession not go to paper silver. I would hope other PM Buggers will do the same.
 
Hey they are gonna break JP Morgan, just like we were gonna in 2011 ...........

Yeah buy silver and take posession, we'll show em.

Hopefully theyve got Max Keiser on the team

this article from Dec 2010 could be reprinted with the date changed to 2020 -

 
Yeah, but supposedly JPM is long silver now, isn't it? I haven't been keeping up with narrative on them.

So WSB thinking Hunt Bros part 2, huh? Bring it on.
 
Yes I recall reading how JPM had repositioned and were now long but they would only be doing this if silver was going to be allowed to 'find its market price' and from where I sit ( still down 15% after 10 years ) this has yet to happen ......

Mind games at every level ......... Trump's probably behind it then

Thing is though, someone must be short silver if there's approx 250 paper claims on every real ounce
 
Re-reading that screenshot... What's a "normie"?
 
worringly, it might be us bugs, as the term is used in a list of people who would appear to be encouraging others to purchase silver

We have become normalised by the craziness (-:
 

 
... With the developments over the last few days of investors shifting away from paper silver and taking delivery of physical silver, the whole market construct for precious metals is changing. ...


I read the above and wondered if folks playing in the paper silver markets are really shifting away at all, or if the retail market has just been overwhelmed by WSB players. If the former, silver could really exlpode if the paper markets implode. If the latter, silver's bump is likely to be small and short lived until supply chains catch up with new demand.
 
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Sorry about the wording of my original post. Recent health issues and new meds making it difficult to concentrate. I will admit I do not understand a lot of the intricacies of the markets, but anything that pushes price up I support.
You will get there rblong2us, my break even price is $25.50.
 
A lot has been written about the silver markets with respect to manipulation, JPM, shorting, etc. I suspect that WSB peeps are expecting another Gamestop where buying eletronic units will magically create wealth.

The only way for longs to break the futures market hold on PMs is to either buy physical retail or to buy commodity contracts and insist on delivery. There needs to some sustained demand for physical to stress the system like we saw in the gold market when the Comex nearly broke and had to vacuum all of Switzerland's refining production (and backstop with LBMA inventory).

You were/are right to advise WSB peeps to buy physical. Stressing retail as has been done is starting a bottom up reaction. It will be fun if short positions get spooked and unwind.
 
You will get there rblong2us, my break even price is $25.50.
I need an approximate US$38 per troy bounce to break even Chigg
I timed my purchase exquisitely and was caught up in the Max Keiser 'to the moon' hype of 10 years ago ..........

Fortunately my gold purchases have covered the losses in silver (-:

And curiously, I'm not sure what I would do if silver hit $40 ......
10 years of looking at significant losses kinda makes me want to get shot of it but if it really has the potential that has been promised by so many,
perhaps another 10 years will be needed ..........

Its all good training in detachment though (-:
 
I guess today we see how serious the WSB bros are. Silver got hammered in the overnight trading. Silver won't be a quick hitter like GME was. Silver will require some sustained determination.
 
so gold down $30 today and silver down $3

Is that it or is this just the opening salvo ?
 
When we plan to invest in gold, we need a fair amount of investment, but we can start with less investment for silver. For example, a 1 oz silver bar value is less as compared to gold. In the upcoming trend, people like to use Digital Gold or investing in gold online.
 
... Is that it or is this just the opening salvo ?

From what I can see, retail silver got wiped out (dealers have no inventory). But there wasn't any push in the futures market. The large short orders that came in driving the price down is likely TPTB making a statement. I don't think the WSB gadflies are going to have the stamina to continue vacuuming up retail silver until the trickle up affects the futures market.
 
Well, I found out that the WSB silver movement created it's own Reddit room:


There are ~18.2K people participating at the moment. Reading through the posts is interesting. Looks like they might be more determined than I gave them credit for.
 


WallStreetSilver going to buy 5,000 tonnes of silver? That's 160,753,700 troy ounces or roughly $4,420,726,750 at $27.5/toz.
 
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eerrr
so the approx '18200 participating at the moment' are gonna spend an average of $243 000 each
in order to purchase a non existent 5000 tonnes of silver ????

Where did the 5000 tonnes figure come from ?
 
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Where did the 5000 tonnes figure come from ?

See BullionStar report referenced in my last post. They reported LBMA silver inventory as reported in December 2020 and ETF holdings as reported more recently (Feb 2021). Assuming LBMA didn't add any silver to the vaults from December, BullionStar estimates they had 4,366.7 tonnes that wasn't owned by ETFs, PSLV, etc. I rounded up on the assumption that the LBMA may have added to their inventories.

BTW, WallStreetSilver group now lists 21.4K participants.
 
So 'not accounted for' means its available i.e. for sale ?

I suppose at the right price my BV silver would be for sale though .......

For the big boyz $ 4.4 billion is not a big number but for WallStreetSilver it will be a test

Perhaps Elon could step in and buy it all (-;
 
I was tempted to jump in this weekend but fought it off. A $4-$5 premium is tough to swallow. Hoping I can catch a dip in $25 range before summer.
 
saw this comment from Michael Ballinger



Yeah we saw premiums in physical back in the summer when things got tight but once things got moved around it all settled down again. Maybe watching premiums and GSR as per the above comment is the way ?
 
#SilverSqueeze causing ETFs to amend their prospectuses due to expected price volatility and inability to source sufficient physical metal.

 
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This was reposted on ZH after being taken down by Reddit -


considering how disparaging some of the long term gold and silver pundits are about the new wave of day traders, some of these new kids seem to be pretty well up to speed with things .........
 
The author of that piece makes some assumptions/predictions that might be a bit "koolaidish", but hopefully the thesis pans out.


AFAIK, open interest continues to decline every day until the last day before they are locked in. Harvey et al highlight large open interest positions all the time and they always shrink to nothingburgers by the last day.


u/Ditch_the_DeepState posted this a short while ago:
March COMEX contract open interest declines to 17,000 contracts ...


I did enjoy this bit:
I didn't check his numbers/math, but it's an interesting comparison.


To the moon!

 
Yes I saw Turds post before I saw that Wall Street Bets post.
What we may be seeing is an attempt by various interests to aquire physical in the event there is a shortage ( kinda self fulfilling prophecy )
And regardless of who it is, as long as the demand for delivery continues to rise at the COMEX, then we can realistically expect price to be effected.
 


Looks like the WSB crowd wasn't able to sustain the buying long enough, but they got pretty close.
 
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I see that theres a new attempt to 'break the morgue'


It will be interesting to see if it works any better than last time and might even allow me a break even moment )-:
 
The WSB folks heard the message:
I wonder how many of them will be buying PSLV /SLV or BV/GM rather than physical bars at retail.
 
I was browsing the WSS subreddit and see that some of them are buying billboard ads along some roadways. Seems like there is still a bit of enthusiasm in the room.
 
Ronan Manly called out the LBMA on their bullshit and they capitulated.

In a shocking retraction, the bullion bank dominated London Bullion Market Association (LBMA) has just announced that it has been overstating LBMA silver vault holdings by a massive 3,300 tonnes of silver.
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More:
 
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Yeah a 540% increase in demand ......... hey why dont we cut the price and go for volume, we could clean up (-;

Kin unbelievable that theres no correlation between demand and price )-:
 
I'm guessing that last year sales were depressed as c19 was just getting started, but it seems like physical demand is going strong.
 
Silver Bullion Market is one of the most manipulated on earth. Any short squeeze in silver paper shorts would be EPIC. We know billion banks are manipulating gold and silver to cover real inflation.

All of the best mines for silver have already been depleted in recent years. There is a severe supply shortage developing. At the same time, demand is skyrocketing. Solar panels, electric cars, electronics and many other products need more silver than ever.

Both the industrial case and monetary case, debt printing has never been more favorable for the No. 1 inflation hedge Silver.

Inflation adjusted Silver should be at $1,000 instead of 25$.

Why not squeeze $SLV to real physical price.

Think about the Gainz. If you don't care about the gains, think about the banks like JP MORGAN you'd be destroying along the way.

Tldr- Corner the market. Gold Ventures thinks its possible to squeeze $SLV, FUCK AFTER SEEING $AG AND $GME EVEN I THINK WE CAN DO IT. BUY $SLV GO ALL IN TH GAINZ WILL BE UNLIMITED. DEMAND PHYSICAL IF YOU CAN. FUCK THE BANKS.

If the brokerages close trading on $SLV or various silver miners, we can continue to squeeze the market by purchasing physical silver at online or local silver/gold dealers. It all trickles into COMEX to squeeze supply.
 
Hi n.m, welcome to the forum.

It certainly seems like things might be coming to a head.
 
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