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Ukraine is forefront in the news. Events are continually unfolding and the ramifications happening here could cause another world war.

If it isn't well known, 'Ukraine' is a proxy war between Russia and the United States.

Ukraine has been the playground of the NWO elite for decades and (IMO) Putin is destroying their turf - be it US funded bio-weapons labs, money laundering, drug and human trafficking operations.

The back story is the NWO/International Bankers fiat debt money system is failing and as Ron Paul accurately pointed out: "All wars are Banker's wars" and by this he means they use war to hide their collapsing fiat system and to introduce political change across the globe.

Ukraine is the red-headed stepchild of history with regards to military conflict.
 
Alex is a Greek who does walkie-talkies providing interesting commentary from his perspective on Ukraine, Russia, US, Turkey, Greece et al.
NATO leverages Nord Stream crisis. UK, remote control sabotage. EU sanctions Dugin. Update 1
 
Supposedly the Ukranian banking system does not make it easy if possible at all to see where the money goes. No tickee no shirtee.
 
RUSSIAN MFA STATEMENT
on the referendums in the DPR,LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhey regions

[Forwarded from Russian MFA 🇷🇺]
🎙 (https://telegra.ph/Statement-09-28) Foreign Ministry’s statement (https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1831658/) on the referendums in the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions

On September 23-27, the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions held referendums on their accession to the Russian Federation. The results of the voting have been tabulated, with the overwhelming majority of voters supporting unification with Russia – 99.23 percent in the DPR, 98.42 percent in the LPR, 93.11 percent in the Zaporozhye Region and 87.05 percent in the Kherson Region. The turnout was as follows: 97.5 percent in the DPR, 92.6 percent in the LPR, 85.4 in the Zaporozhye Region and 76.9 percent in the Kherson Region.

Despite the provocations of the Kiev regime that gave criminal orders to massively shell areas where civilians gather and civilian facilities, people were not afraid to come to the polls and express their will. The results of the plebiscite speak for themselves – the residents of Donbass, as well as the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions do not want to return to their former life. They have made a conscious and free choice in favour of Russia.

In fact, they had no alternative left. Far from all people in Ukraine acquiesced and accepted the coup in Kiev in February 2014 that brought to power radical nationalist forces that unleashed a bloody fight against those that would not accept it in the southeast of the country. The signing of the Minsk agreements approved by a UN Security Council resolution did not rescue the situation. As Ukrainian representatives are cynically saying now, Ukraine was never going to honour them from the very start and was preparing for war. For eight years, the population of Donbass was subjected to persistent and cynical attempts to destroy them. The decision of the residents of Donbass, the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions to seek protection from Russia was a natural result of the inhumane policy pursued by the Kiev regime.

The referendums took place in full conformity with the standards and principles of international law. The people of Donbass and the south of Ukraine exercised their lawful right to self-determination in accordance with the UN Charter, the 1966 international human rights covenants, the 1975 OCSE Helsinki Final Act, and the verdict of the UN International Court of Justice on Kosovo on July 22, 2010. The latter confirmed that the unilateral proclamation of independence by a part of a state does not violate any norms of international law.

International observers from Italy, Germany, Venezuela, Latvia and other countries (overall, 133 people) monitored the course of the referendums and recognised them as legitimate. We are grateful to foreign experts, bloggers, journalists and representatives of public organisations for their courage, integrity and objectivity.

In the near future, we will enter a critical stage in our joint efforts to translate into life the desire of the residents of the DPR, LPR, and the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to be together with Russia.

 
Gonzalo Lira is a Chilean living in Karkiv who hosts people from around the world to discuss current events in the world. Primarily Ukraine, Russia, US, and the EU.

Roundtable #25: George Galloway, Syrian Girl, Alex Thomson
 
Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis 29.09.2022
 
Russia to formally annex four more areas of Ukraine
By Paul Kirby
BBC News

Russia's Vladimir Putin will hold a signing ceremony on Friday to annex four more areas of Ukraine after self-styled referendums condemned by Ukraine and the West as a sham.

Russian-backed officials had earlier claimed the five-day exercise secured almost total popular support.

So-called votes were held in Luhansk and Donetsk in the east, and in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson in the south.

The Russian president will make a major speech at the Kremlin.

A stage has already been set up in Moscow's Red Square, with billboards proclaiming the four regions as part of Russia and a concert planned for the evening.

The event echoes Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014, which also followed a discredited referendum and was heralded by a Kremlin signing followed by a presidential victory speech in parliament. That initial annexation has never been recognised by the vast majority of the international community, and nor will this.

 
[Forwarded from Disclose.tv]
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JUST IN - Putin signs decrees recognizing the occupied Ukrainian regions of Kherson and Zaporizhia as "independent territories."

Donetsk and Luhansk regions are already recognized as "independent territories" by Russia.

This decree is understood to be the last intermediate step for tomorrow's annexation of the occupied regions to Russia.

@disclosetv


👆👆👆Those regions are not being 'occupied'.

They were targeted in a a civil war led by the Kyiv regime since 2014. A regime that both helped run biolabs and supported openly Nazi units that were often involved in war crimes against civilians.

These regions voted to join the Russian Federation.

 
THE WAR MUST END - WHAT IS AT STAKE FOR THE WORLD - CONSORTIUM EDITOR-IN-CHIEF
Joe Lauria, seasoned journalist, shares his impressive background and knowledge about foreign affairs. He insists the war in Ukraine has to end because all of humanity is at risk of nuclear annihilation. Important insights into the history of the conflict.
 
Ukraine. Military Summary And Analysis 30.09.2022. Liman Defense Operation.
 
👏🏻👏🏻Dr. Marcus Papadopoulos:

"In the years of 1991, 1992, and 2008, the West approved of a number of independence referendums in the Balkans. In 1991, 1992, the West not only approved and recognized, but also engineered independence referendums in Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia Herzegovina, which effectively killed the socialist federal republic of Yugoslavia, a member of the United Nations and whose borders were internationally recognized.

In 2008, the west not only approved and recognized, but also engineered an independence referendum in the medieval Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija. In Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia Herzegovina, and Kosovo and Metohija, the West cited the principle of self-determination in accounting for why they recognized those independence referendums, though it should be said the West never applied the principle of self-determination to the Serbs of Croatia and the Serbs of Bosnia, but that is another story. So, today in 2022 the question which needs to be put to Western policy makers is this: if, as they did recognize the independence referendums in Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Kosovo and Metohija on the basis of the principle of self-determination, then why will the West not apply the principle of self-determination to the people of Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Kherson. That is why I say the West's position on the referendums in Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Kherson is completely untenable. It is completely contradictory. The reality is that the West will apply the principle of self-determination when it suits its own geopolitical objectives, and when the principle of self-determination does not suit the objectives of the West, then the West will quite simply discard that principle."



 
One would think PM's would be taking off instead of languishing...
speed 2.0X
Russia Warns US on Nuclear Threats; China Global Times Hints at US Responsibility for Nord Stream
 
Developing situation

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[Forwarded from Soothing White Pills (Melissa_in_Arcadia)]
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Things are off to a rollicking start today with the DM having what appears to be a decent summation of Putin's speech; just see the emotionally-charged language used by the mockingbird for what it is and it's then powerless to yeet you around emotionally.

Also keep in mind Putin's choosing his words deliberately. Anglo-Saxons is a direct knock to some older DS bloodlines. 👀👀

Sauce (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-created-nuclear-precedent-bombing-Japan.html)

 
[Forwarded from Woke Societies]
The Russian Federation is speaking at the UN meeting right now live.



@WokeSocieties 🇺🇸

 
Germany becomes Ukraine command center. TurkStream sabotage fears. Woke army is better. Update 1
 
Livestream: News Headlines & Putins Speech - Will This Be RED OCTOBER?!
 
Putin's speech ^^ starts at 1:28:00

FYI I'm not 'for' Russia, nor NATO.

I AM for truth in reporting.

I've found it interesting to listen to the other side to the words they say, and compare that to what the west says.

So far, the west is spreading propaganda, a false narrative that is thicker than peanut butter vs what the east is saying.
 
Gonzalo Lira is a Chilean living in Karkiv who hosts people from around the world to discuss current events in the world. Primarily Ukraine, Russia, US, and the EU.

Roundtable #25: George Galloway, Syrian Girl, Alex Thomson



Translation of Putin's speech was a fake but probably not too far from the truth.
 
Translation of Putin's speech was a fake but probably not too far from the truth.
Yes, I like how it was 'outed' post hast... you are correct in saying that's what they're really thinking....
 
I think Russia is tired of getting its troops ground up however small compared to the West forces and will start to unleash air strikes. Now the shit hits the fan.
 
Putin Denounces West, Russia Will Follow Own Path; Russia Annexes Four Regions, Counterattacks Liman
 
Tremregi has the most interesting people on

PUTIN - 300,000 CALLED UP, REFERENDA - PIPELINE SABOTAGE - IS THE UNSPEAKABLE POSSIBLE
Professor Glenn Diesen discusses there in no longer a unipolar world; Putin calling up 300,000 reservists and accepting the results of the four referenda - a game changer? All signs point to the USA as the guilty party in blowing up Nord Stream I and II. Will the US continue to escalate this conflict to the point of nuclear war?
 
I didn't see any blitzkrieg. Ivan has been slow walking this.

You should pick up a history book. He occupied the Rhineland, annexed the Sudetenland, then the Anschluss & then finally the rest of Czechoslovakia all well before he invaded Poland where the Blitzkrieg was 1st used.
 
You should pick up a history book. He occupied the Rhineland, annexed the Sudetenland, then the Anschluss & then finally the rest of Czechoslovakia all well before he invaded Poland where the Blitzkrieg was 1st used.

So you going to equate Putin with Hitler? If by taking over land I don't think this is anything new been going on since the beginning. I think Putin has more legit reasons for what he is doing than Hitler did. Alexander the Great did this too didn't he? I guess there are many more examples you read the book maybe you could enlighten me.
 
So you going to equate Putin with Hitler? If by taking over land I don't think this is anything new been going on since the beginning. I think Putin has more legit reasons for what he is doing than Hitler did. Alexander the Great did this too didn't he? I guess there are many more examples you read the book maybe you could enlighten me.

So what are his "legit" reasons for an invading Ukraine?
 
So what are his "legit" reasons for an invading Ukraine?


Minsk Accord violations. 2014 American backed coup. Trying to pick sides in this is hard. Russia is no shining light but Ukraine and the West has become worse. Putin is not crazy he will not use nukes the insane leaders in the west just might.
 
Minsk Accord violations. 2014 American backed coup. Trying to pick sides in this is hard. Russia is no shining light but Ukraine and the West has become worse. Putin is not crazy he will not use nukes the insane leaders in the west just might.


So if there is a coup in Canada, you are good with us invading it then, right?
 
So if there is a coup in Canada, you are good with us invading it then, right?

Now you're just being silly. Minsk Accord is more important than the coup. Who are you talking about invading Canada the US? We did enough of that already don't you think?
 
That's called a Strawman argument.

Talk about reading a history book...

Hardly. If you feel one country is justified invading a neighbor cause they didn't like the change in ownership, it shouldn't matter which countries are involved.
 
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