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Jordan Peterson STUNS Lex Fridman on Vladimir Putin!!! (15 min 37 sec):
Published on Sep 26, 2022 by Dr. Steve Turley
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More Americans in the United States need to read this article Mr. Putin wrote a year ago.
The Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians
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And never has been. But getting our politicians to believe that is another matter.
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This all about controlling the world's energy. Politicians got nothing to do with it they control nothing. They are easily controlled that's why you have a dementia patient in the WH. EU leaders are bought too. So the US blows up pipelines Europe desperately needs then offers to sell LNG to them at at least triple the price. Evil. Beyond comprehension how the citizens of those countries haven't taking their politicos for a little ride in the country.
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For those of you who want something to listen to in the background while you do other things, here's a program from several days ago from three of my favorite political commentators, Alex & Alexander of The Duran and also Robert Barnes. They cover a number of topics, Ukraine, Europe, upcoming U.S. elections, etc. (No graphics presented so no need to "watch" ... listening to the audio is sufficient)
Cui bono, "to whom is it a benefit?" w/Robert Barnes (2:12:41)
Cui bono, "to whom is it a benefit?" w/Robert Barnes (2:12:41)
Published on Sep 29, 2022 by The Duran
Q & A: Cui bono, "to whom is it a benefit?" (28 min 42 sec):
Published on Oct 2, 2022 by The Duran
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Putin Calls Globalist Elites 'INSANE SATANISTS'!!! (8 min 30 sec):
Published on Sep 30, 2022 by Dr. Steve Turley
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Not normally a Rogan watcher, but I ran across this clip with what I believe to be a pretty good summation of the situation.
About 14 minutes. Includes an interesting clip of Gideon Rose (CFR stooge) on Colbert's show from several years ago.
About 14 minutes. Includes an interesting clip of Gideon Rose (CFR stooge) on Colbert's show from several years ago.
I don't know how spot on the article is. It did state some things that have happened and some that may happen.
What if the motivation of destroying the pipeline is described in that article. Who benefits if Europe and the US no longer get along? Who benefits if the US is forced to stand alone?
Just because he's using similar tactics doesn't mean he is the same persona.
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You assume those in charge are in their right minds and they ain't.
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Ukraine: The CIA’s 75-year-old Proxy - CovertAction Magazine
Joe Biden “is fueling the fire in the Ukraine.” -- Roger Waters of Pink Floyd It takes a musical artist to cut through the morass of propaganda to educate American mainstream media (MSM) about the Russia-Ukraine crisis and the roleof the United States in instigating that conflict for its own...
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Good video! Thanks for posting it.
Here's the Waters interview that was mentioned...
Roger Waters - CNN interview (Aug 6, 2022) (7 min 28 sec):
Published on Aug 7, 2022 by Alessandro Del Prete
.No, I think those in charge are using idiots as their spokesmen to rub it in our faces.
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[Forwarded from Just Human ]
‘Audit of Humanitarian Assistance to Ukraine’
#DrainTheSwamp
[Forwarded from Just Human ]
The 'vomit face' reactions tell me some of y'all are not clicking and reading what this is. I'll spell it out in nice big letters for ya...
THE OIG IS AUDITING THE MONEY SENT TO UKRAINE.
Get it?
This is DRAIN THE SWAMP in action.
"The Ukraine related activities of the Department of State (Department) and the U.S. Agency for Global Media (USAGM) are a top oversight priority for the Office of Inspector General (OIG). The complexity, scale, and timing of efforts in response to the situation in Ukraine demand robust oversight...
Multiple federal agencies are responding to the crisis and OIG is coordinating with offices across the inspector general community, including inspector general offices at the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). A variety of working groups, comprised of auditors, inspectors, and investigators, are meeting on a regular basis to collaborate and achieve results."
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‘Audit of Humanitarian Assistance to Ukraine’
#DrainTheSwamp
[Forwarded from Just Human ]
The 'vomit face' reactions tell me some of y'all are not clicking and reading what this is. I'll spell it out in nice big letters for ya...
THE OIG IS AUDITING THE MONEY SENT TO UKRAINE.
Get it?
This is DRAIN THE SWAMP in action.
"The Ukraine related activities of the Department of State (Department) and the U.S. Agency for Global Media (USAGM) are a top oversight priority for the Office of Inspector General (OIG). The complexity, scale, and timing of efforts in response to the situation in Ukraine demand robust oversight...
Multiple federal agencies are responding to the crisis and OIG is coordinating with offices across the inspector general community, including inspector general offices at the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID). A variety of working groups, comprised of auditors, inspectors, and investigators, are meeting on a regular basis to collaborate and achieve results."
Just Human ⭐️⭐️⭐️
The 'vomit face' reactions tell me some of y'all are not clicking and reading what this is. I'll spell it out in nice big letters for ya... THE OIG IS AUDITING THE MONEY SENT TO UKRAINE. Get it? This is DRAIN THE SWAMP in action. "The Ukraine related activities of the Department of State...
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[Forwarded from Miranda Writes (John Miranda)]
[ Video ]
The ending of the annexation ceremony yesterday in Moscow...
Western Mainstream Media would have us believe that moral is dreadfully low in Russia. We are told their military is crumbling and their economy is in tatters.
Look at the crowd. Reconcile.
Our Mainstream Media in the West is propaganda, lies and illusions.
It is the economies of Western countries that are collapsing. It will be in West and particularly in Western Europe where energy and electricity will not exist this winter.
Do we understand now why Western Big Tech and Western Governments banned all social media and news that Russians put out?
Constructing your opinions based solely on what MSM feeds you shows everyone you are an obedient sheep.
Ask anyone randomly about Ukraine / Russia? If they tell you Russia is losing, their military is crumbling and their economy is in tatters... Then ask them if they have gotten their fourth booster yet?
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice that comes with consequences."
John Miranda
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[Forwarded from Miranda Writes (John Miranda)]
[ Video ]
The ending of the annexation ceremony yesterday in Moscow...
Western Mainstream Media would have us believe that moral is dreadfully low in Russia. We are told their military is crumbling and their economy is in tatters.
Look at the crowd. Reconcile.
Our Mainstream Media in the West is propaganda, lies and illusions.
It is the economies of Western countries that are collapsing. It will be in West and particularly in Western Europe where energy and electricity will not exist this winter.
Do we understand now why Western Big Tech and Western Governments banned all social media and news that Russians put out?
Constructing your opinions based solely on what MSM feeds you shows everyone you are an obedient sheep.
Ask anyone randomly about Ukraine / Russia? If they tell you Russia is losing, their military is crumbling and their economy is in tatters... Then ask them if they have gotten their fourth booster yet?
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice that comes with consequences."
John Miranda
Miranda Writes
The ending of the annexation ceremony yesterday in Moscow... 🇷🇺 Western Mainstream Media would have us believe that morale is dreadfully low in Russia. We are told their military is crumbling and their economy is in tatters. Look at the crowd. Reconcile. Our Mainstream Media in the West is...
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"NATO WILL FALL APART" - Col MacGregor. EU Gas Storage "will EMPTY to 5%". Czech Students Shiver (10 min 31 sec):
Published on Oct 3, 2022 by iEarlGrey
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[Forwarded from Expose The Agenda (R)]
Lt. j.g. Chris Bianchi, assigned to Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit (EODMU) 8, prepares mock explosives for a pierside training event during exercise BALTOPS 22, June 10. U.S. NAVY / Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Daniel James Lanari
"Experimentation was conducted off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark, with participants from Naval Information Warfare Center Pacific, Naval Undersea Warfare Center Newport, and Mine Warfare Readiness and Effectiveness Measuring all under the direction of U.S. 6th Fleet Task Force 68." (June 2022)
seapowermagazine.org
(First explosion of NordStream reported in Bornholm, Denmark)
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Lt. j.g. Chris Bianchi, assigned to Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit (EODMU) 8, prepares mock explosives for a pierside training event during exercise BALTOPS 22, June 10. U.S. NAVY / Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Daniel James Lanari
"Experimentation was conducted off the coast of Bornholm, Denmark, with participants from Naval Information Warfare Center Pacific, Naval Undersea Warfare Center Newport, and Mine Warfare Readiness and Effectiveness Measuring all under the direction of U.S. 6th Fleet Task Force 68." (June 2022)
BALTOPS 22: A Perfect Opportunity for Research and Resting New Technology - Seapower
BALTIC SEA — A significant focus of BALTOPS every year is the demonstration of NATO mine hunting capabilities, and this year the U.S. Navy continues to use the exercise as an opportunity to test emerging technology, U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa...
seapowermagazine.org
(First explosion of NordStream reported in Bornholm, Denmark)
Expose The Agenda
Lt. j.g. Chris Bianchi, assigned to Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit (EODMU) 8, prepares mock explosives for a pierside training event during exercise BALTOPS 22, June 10. U.S. NAVY / Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Daniel James Lanari "Experimentation was conducted off the coast...
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[Forwarded from Disclose.tv]
[ Video ]
NOW - State Duma unanimously ratifies the annexation of the Ukrainian territories Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson into the Russian Federation.
There are now 89 subjects in the Russian Federation, Chairman of the State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin says.
@disclosetv
[ Video ]
NOW - State Duma unanimously ratifies the annexation of the Ukrainian territories Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson into the Russian Federation.
There are now 89 subjects in the Russian Federation, Chairman of the State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin says.
@disclosetv
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[Forwarded from The Colonel’s Corner
(Colonel Roxane Towner-Watkins The Colonel’s Corner 🎖🎖🎖)][ Photo ]
Ukraine is the new Enron. They are $20B in debt to the likes of Bank of America, Goldman Sachs International and JPMorgan Chase Bank. These bankers sit on a committee and are some of the committee members who voted “yes” to the question so a restructuring of credit. You see, the money the US is dumping into Ukraine is just going to the bankers who are propping up our illegitimate government. It is also making the military industrial complex very, very rich and all of us a lot poorer.
The Colonel’s Corner🦅🦅🦅
Ukraine is the new Enron. They are $20B in debt to the likes of Bank of America, Goldman Sachs International and JPMorgan Chase Bank. These bankers sit on a committee and are some of the committee members who voted “yes” to the question so a restructuring of credit. You see, the money the US is...
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If you had a friend with a gambling problem and he set up an “investment account” and asked you to invest your money for him to take to the casino, would you? And let’s say that same friend was in the middle of a long standing feud with his neighbor and $20B in debt…would you? Well your government see no problem in loaning your neighbor your grandkids money. Cause yours was spent decades ago.
“Chairman and CEO of BlackRock Larry Fink met over a video conference to discuss how BlackRock Financial Markets Advisory could provide pro bono advice to the Ukrainian government on setting up a reconstruction fund in support of the recovery of the Ukrainian economy.
The goal of the fund would be to create opportunity for both public and private investors to participate in reconstructing and rejuvenating the market economy in Ukraine by delivering fair and just returns to investors.
“The investment attractiveness of our country is of particular importance. It's important to me that a structure like this be successful for all parties involved. We are capable, and we want to restore a normal investment climate," the Head of State said.”
BlackRock Inc. has:
$5.7 billion invested in Boeing,
$2 billion in General Dynamics;
$4.6 billion in Lockheed Martin;
$2.6 billion in Northrop Grumman;
and $6 billion in Raytheon.
The Colonel’s Corner🦅🦅🦅
If you had a friend with a gambling problem and he set up an “investment account” and asked you to invest your money for him to take to the casino, would you? And let’s say that same friend was in the middle of a long standing feud with his neighbor and $20B in debt…would you? Well your...
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All Hell Breaks Loose After Musk Posts "Russia-Ukraine Peace" Twitter Poll
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Well let’s give him a gun and send him to the front line. I’m sick of these war mongerers who talk tough but have no skin in the game. He would run away like the pansy ass that he is.
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From the article:
Just the evening prior, journalist Michael Tracey pointed out the following, which is aptly demonstrated in Monday's Elon Musk Ukraine Twitter controversy...
"The media should do a much better job explaining to Americans that the reason they're at heightened nuclear risk right now is because the US government **knowingly chose to put them at heightened nuclear risk**," Tracey said. "Pro-war ideological zealots deliberately imposed this risk on them."
I ain't no Senator's son y'all...
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BRUCE GAGNON - PUTIN'S SPEECH - THE CALLUP, REFERENDA, PIPELINE - AMERICA'S GOAL IN RUSSIA
www.bitchute.com
Bruce Gagnon - Putin's Speech - The Callup, Referenda, Pipeline - America's Goal in Russia
Bruce Gagnon and I discussed a myriad of related, current and critical topics: Putin's historic speech, the accession of Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaparozhe, and Kherson to the Russian Federation, the retreat in Liman, Nord Stream I and II attacks, the coll…
www.bitchute.com
A traitorous rino.
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[Reality Theories, Eva K. Bartlett on Telegram]
Father Joseph Gleason writes:
"...As you know, the West has been lying about Russia for around 1000 years now. So it’s nothing new. Anti-Russian propaganda is as old as the Great Schism. A lot of it is no doubt deliberate. And, sadly, a lot more of it is probably not deliberate — no doubt, a lot of American sources are probably just parroting *other* American sources, assuming that they are correct (even though they are not).
On top of that, Russian sources are being actively censored and blocked from the eyes of the American public. So innocent readers look at a lot of different sources (all with the same bias), figure that "all" the sources are saying the same thing, and conclude that they must be correct. This is how Western propaganda works.
I have personally interviewed some refugees from Donbass, who tell a different story:
There are first-hand accounts of people in Ukraine, recounting the atrocities committed by Ukrainian soldiers.
Independent journalists who are actually physically present in Donbass show that the local people are welcoming the Russian presence there, but this sort of reporting is being violently covered up by the West:
www.visiontimes.com
I personally know Eva Bartlett, a journalist from Canada, who is currently present in Donbass. I have met her in person. She has visited my family in my house here in Russia. Currently, she sends daily reports from the Donbass area. Her Reality Theories Telegram channel has nearly 30,000 subscribers. She shares photos and videos from directly onsite. She shows that the Ukrainian military has been brutalizing its own people, and that the majority of local people are very grateful to have the Russian military liberate them and protect them. Eva, too, has been villianized by the Western media.
Add everything up, and I agree that there is a lot of propaganda out there. I just don’t think it’s coming from Russia...."
movingtorussia.substack.com
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Father Joseph Gleason writes:
"...As you know, the West has been lying about Russia for around 1000 years now. So it’s nothing new. Anti-Russian propaganda is as old as the Great Schism. A lot of it is no doubt deliberate. And, sadly, a lot more of it is probably not deliberate — no doubt, a lot of American sources are probably just parroting *other* American sources, assuming that they are correct (even though they are not).
On top of that, Russian sources are being actively censored and blocked from the eyes of the American public. So innocent readers look at a lot of different sources (all with the same bias), figure that "all" the sources are saying the same thing, and conclude that they must be correct. This is how Western propaganda works.
I have personally interviewed some refugees from Donbass, who tell a different story:
Escaping Ukraine, Fleeing to Russia, Three Refugee Families Interviewed by American Orthodox Priest
"People in Ukraine who think they are fighting for freedom . . . they don't understand what freedom is." "There were explosions, planes were flying, like you could hear it all. . . . Some houses were on fire. Some houses were just missing . . . They were shooting heavily." "This [Metropolitan]...
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There are first-hand accounts of people in Ukraine, recounting the atrocities committed by Ukrainian soldiers.
Independent journalists who are actually physically present in Donbass show that the local people are welcoming the Russian presence there, but this sort of reporting is being violently covered up by the West:
German Journalist Criminally Charged, Bank Account Seized, for Deviating From the Official Narrative on Ukraine - Vision Times
An independent German journalist reporting on the situation in Donbas, Ukraine objectively has been formally charged with a crime punishable by 3 years in prison
www.visiontimes.com
I personally know Eva Bartlett, a journalist from Canada, who is currently present in Donbass. I have met her in person. She has visited my family in my house here in Russia. Currently, she sends daily reports from the Donbass area. Her Reality Theories Telegram channel has nearly 30,000 subscribers. She shares photos and videos from directly onsite. She shows that the Ukrainian military has been brutalizing its own people, and that the majority of local people are very grateful to have the Russian military liberate them and protect them. Eva, too, has been villianized by the Western media.
Add everything up, and I agree that there is a lot of propaganda out there. I just don’t think it’s coming from Russia...."
Does American News Really Lie About Russia?
All the Western media says "Russia Bad!" - But is it true?
movingtorussia.substack.com
Eva Karene Bartlett, Reality Theories
Father Joseph Gleason writes: "...As you know, the West has been lying about Russia for around 1000 years now. So it’s nothing new. Anti-Russian propaganda is as old as the Great Schism. A lot of it is no doubt deliberate. And, sadly, a lot more of it is probably not deliberate — no doubt, a...
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Scott Ritter:
"...NATO has embarked on a program designed to provide Ukraine with tens of billions of dollars in military and financial assistance, including the transfer of modern heavy weapons and the use of facilities on Western soil where tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops could be trained and organized without fear of Russian intervention.
The purpose behind the NATO infusion of weaponry into Ukraine was straightforward – to empower Ukraine to not only lengthen the conflict, but also to undertake offensive military operations designed to evict Russia from what Kiev and its backers consider occupied Ukrainian territory, including the Donbass and Crimea. The counteroffensive in Kharkov in early September underscored the serious consequences of NATO’s actions – even though, given the massive loss of life and material suffered by the attacking Ukrainian forces, made the Kharkov victory Pyrrhic in nature, it was a Ukrainian victory, and one which compelled a Russian retreat.
By transforming the Ukrainian army into a NATO army which was manned by Ukrainians, the US-led bloc had, in fact, changed the nature of the game from a straightforward Russia-versus-Ukraine “special military operation” into a “Russia-versus-the collective West” struggle where the military resources originally allocated by Moscow to the fight were now insufficient to the task.
Russia, however, was not taking the game-changing actions of NATO standing still. Responding to the new reality on the ground in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin opted not to simply up the ante in this new NATO-driven game of increasing military power but change the game altogether. Not only did he order the partial mobilization of some 300,000 Russian reservists to reinforce the troops currently committed to the SMO, Putin also approved referendums in the four territories where Russian forces are presently fighting – Kherson and Zaporozhye (formerly occupied Ukrainian regions), and Donetsk and Lugansk (former regions of Ukraine, de-facto independent since 2014). These referendums asked the citizens of these four territories one simple question: do you wish to become part of Russia?
After five days of voting, the results from all four territories were clear – by an overwhelming majority, the participants in the referendums approved the proposition. Shortly thereafter, they were incorporated into the Russian Federation. What was once Ukraine has now become Mother Russia.
Russia didn’t just change the rules of the game – it changed the game itself. Instead of Ukrainian forces fighting Russian forces on the territory of Ukraine, any future combat carried out by Ukraine against Russian forces would represent an attack on the Russian homeland itself.
Where does this leave NATO? The bloc's leadership has made it clear from day one that it is not seeking direct confrontation with Russia. While its members have poured in tens of billions of dollars of material into Ukraine to help reconstitute its military, and provided critical logistics, intelligence, and communications support to Ukraine, it has repeatedly and insistently stated that it has no desire to fight a war with Russia directly and has made it clear that it would rather have the Ukrainians serve as a de facto NATO proxy in resisting Moscow.
NATO has gone “all in” both economically and politically when it comes to supporting Ukraine, to the extent that some of its members, having stripped their respective military structures of equipment and material, have nothing left to give. Despite this, European political and economic elites continue to articulate their strong support for Ukraine going forward.
This support, however, was predicated on the fundamental assumption that by providing Ukraine with this massive level of support, NATO would not get directly involved in a conflict with Moscow. But Russia, by transforming the battleground from one being fought on Ukrainian soil to one where it's now defending its own land, has flipped the script.
NATO, having overcommitted to Ukraine, now finds itself “on the horns of a dilemma” – if it continues to provide massive material and financial support to Ukraine, it will, in effect, become a direct party to the conflict, something no one in the bloc wants. However, if it backs away from supporting Ukraine, the various Western political leaders and institutions which have made support for Kiev a sacred obligation will be seen as going back on their word.
How NATO opts to proceed has yet to be manifest, but indications are that it will not be in a manner which continues to double down on supporting Ukraine no matter what. Secretary General Stoltenberg’s tepid speech condemning Russia while showing no enthusiasm for Zelensky’s “accelerated application” for membership is indicative of the less-than-resolute nature of its support for Kiev.
NATO now will find its role diminished by the consequences of the Russian mobilization and referendums. Years from now, when the history of the conflict is finally written, the decision by President Putin to simultaneously mobilize the Russian reserves while absorbing the territory of southern and eastern Ukraine into the Russian Federation will serve as one of the premier modern-history examples of putting an adversary “on the horns of a dilemma.” The effective neutering of NATO by this action will more than likely be seen as a turning point in the conflict, one which sealed the fate of Ukraine in the face of an inevitable Russian victory."
www.rt.com
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Scott Ritter:
"...NATO has embarked on a program designed to provide Ukraine with tens of billions of dollars in military and financial assistance, including the transfer of modern heavy weapons and the use of facilities on Western soil where tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops could be trained and organized without fear of Russian intervention.
The purpose behind the NATO infusion of weaponry into Ukraine was straightforward – to empower Ukraine to not only lengthen the conflict, but also to undertake offensive military operations designed to evict Russia from what Kiev and its backers consider occupied Ukrainian territory, including the Donbass and Crimea. The counteroffensive in Kharkov in early September underscored the serious consequences of NATO’s actions – even though, given the massive loss of life and material suffered by the attacking Ukrainian forces, made the Kharkov victory Pyrrhic in nature, it was a Ukrainian victory, and one which compelled a Russian retreat.
By transforming the Ukrainian army into a NATO army which was manned by Ukrainians, the US-led bloc had, in fact, changed the nature of the game from a straightforward Russia-versus-Ukraine “special military operation” into a “Russia-versus-the collective West” struggle where the military resources originally allocated by Moscow to the fight were now insufficient to the task.
Russia, however, was not taking the game-changing actions of NATO standing still. Responding to the new reality on the ground in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin opted not to simply up the ante in this new NATO-driven game of increasing military power but change the game altogether. Not only did he order the partial mobilization of some 300,000 Russian reservists to reinforce the troops currently committed to the SMO, Putin also approved referendums in the four territories where Russian forces are presently fighting – Kherson and Zaporozhye (formerly occupied Ukrainian regions), and Donetsk and Lugansk (former regions of Ukraine, de-facto independent since 2014). These referendums asked the citizens of these four territories one simple question: do you wish to become part of Russia?
After five days of voting, the results from all four territories were clear – by an overwhelming majority, the participants in the referendums approved the proposition. Shortly thereafter, they were incorporated into the Russian Federation. What was once Ukraine has now become Mother Russia.
Russia didn’t just change the rules of the game – it changed the game itself. Instead of Ukrainian forces fighting Russian forces on the territory of Ukraine, any future combat carried out by Ukraine against Russian forces would represent an attack on the Russian homeland itself.
Where does this leave NATO? The bloc's leadership has made it clear from day one that it is not seeking direct confrontation with Russia. While its members have poured in tens of billions of dollars of material into Ukraine to help reconstitute its military, and provided critical logistics, intelligence, and communications support to Ukraine, it has repeatedly and insistently stated that it has no desire to fight a war with Russia directly and has made it clear that it would rather have the Ukrainians serve as a de facto NATO proxy in resisting Moscow.
NATO has gone “all in” both economically and politically when it comes to supporting Ukraine, to the extent that some of its members, having stripped their respective military structures of equipment and material, have nothing left to give. Despite this, European political and economic elites continue to articulate their strong support for Ukraine going forward.
This support, however, was predicated on the fundamental assumption that by providing Ukraine with this massive level of support, NATO would not get directly involved in a conflict with Moscow. But Russia, by transforming the battleground from one being fought on Ukrainian soil to one where it's now defending its own land, has flipped the script.
NATO, having overcommitted to Ukraine, now finds itself “on the horns of a dilemma” – if it continues to provide massive material and financial support to Ukraine, it will, in effect, become a direct party to the conflict, something no one in the bloc wants. However, if it backs away from supporting Ukraine, the various Western political leaders and institutions which have made support for Kiev a sacred obligation will be seen as going back on their word.
How NATO opts to proceed has yet to be manifest, but indications are that it will not be in a manner which continues to double down on supporting Ukraine no matter what. Secretary General Stoltenberg’s tepid speech condemning Russia while showing no enthusiasm for Zelensky’s “accelerated application” for membership is indicative of the less-than-resolute nature of its support for Kiev.
NATO now will find its role diminished by the consequences of the Russian mobilization and referendums. Years from now, when the history of the conflict is finally written, the decision by President Putin to simultaneously mobilize the Russian reserves while absorbing the territory of southern and eastern Ukraine into the Russian Federation will serve as one of the premier modern-history examples of putting an adversary “on the horns of a dilemma.” The effective neutering of NATO by this action will more than likely be seen as a turning point in the conflict, one which sealed the fate of Ukraine in the face of an inevitable Russian victory."
NATO in the horns of a dilemma after former Ukrainian regions vote to join Russia
By moving ahead with the absorption of former Ukrainian territories which voted to join Russia, Moscow is flipping NATO’s script
Eva Karene Bartlett, Reality Theories
Scott Ritter: "...NATO has embarked on a program designed to provide Ukraine with tens of billions of dollars in military and financial assistance, including the transfer of modern heavy weapons and the use of facilities on Western soil where tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops could be...
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