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It's called "recession."

You don't own your job, unless you own your business. You opt to sell your labor to someone else, this is what sometimes happens.

We had a fake economy fueled with malinvestment driven by debt-created fiat...what it did, for 18 years, is PREVENT the correction of previous malinvestment, making the problem exponentially worse.
 
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Layoffs are spreading Everywhere! They are filming it!​

Feb 25, 2025
The jobless crises is heating up!

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Layoffs are Getting Worse! (Spreading like Wildfire!)​

Feb 26, 2025
The jobless crises is heating up to new levels!

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WHY IS LIFE SO EXPENSIVE?​

Mar 1, 2025

The jobless crises is heating up to new levels!

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Consumer Loans: Credit Cards and Other Revolving Plans, All Commercial Banks : 1,093.7625 (billion $)

 
Lobsters, crabs, and shrimp are water bugs and may be more affordable than eggs...
 

Experian Erasing $5 Million in People's Debts: Here's Who's Impacted​

Experian is eliminating $5 million in consumer debt for 5,000 families in Louisiana through a partnership with ForgiveCo, a public benefit corporation specializing in debt relief, according to an Experian press release. The initiative is part of Experian's ongoing efforts to support financial literacy and assist consumers facing economic hardship.

Why It Matters

The program is part of Experian's broader push to help consumers take control of their financial health. Louisiana was chosen due to its high poverty rate—nearly 19 percent of the state's population lives below the poverty line, according to U.S. Census Bureau data.

By targeting households burdened with consumer debt, Experian aims to give recipients a fresh start while promoting financial literacy.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...S&cvid=04146b9e53244473b3495dc400b15d6d&ei=48
 
You can't get blood from a turnip, might as well plant it in a garden.
 
When the credit-raters just arbitrarily (with "persuasion" by NGOs) stop counting debt...whether certain KINDS, or certain DEMOGRAPHICS...and then, the gravy-train ends, as it always does...and that debt again suddenly becomes recorded...and your 790 credit score becomes 400...

...first, how's that help the person in the middle? He learned a lesson: Some actions have no consequences. Then, maybe considerably older, suddenly he becomes a credit-criminal. Maybe a mortgage is called, because of his sudden credit-unworthiness. Maybe he's applying for a job...unbeknownst to him, he's now got a smear from Experian, etc.

Chaos is never a good way to live a life, run a nation, or live in a society.
 
Some people play the "Bankruptcy " game like professionals, I just couldn't see myself doing it though...
 
Some people play the "Bankruptcy " game like professionals, I just couldn't see myself doing it though...
Nor could I, but for other reasons.

Not that I advocate irresponsibility - sometimes we just get backed into a corner. I was, 40 years ago, after a motorcycle accident. Happened in Michigan, a no-fault state. I was from elsewhere, just riding through.

When I bought the bike and insurance, I had a gold-plated medical policy from my State job. So I didn't buy Medical Coverage on the insurance policy.

The other driver was legal - probably. I never found out, because the other party was never liable, even though the cause was open-and-shut.

The hospital bills were about $50k in 1986 dollars. I filed a MVA lawsuit against the other driver - which later got discarded, for incredible case law. Michigan has screwed-up liability statutes and rulings - basically, blanket absolution for even criminal negligence and malicious acts.

Five years later it was still winding through...my attorney, fresh from law school when he took the case, and a full partner in his firm by the time it was resolved, hadn't given up. He should have. For hundreds of hours, he received a grand-total of $125 - his 40 percent. The rest went to the hospital in Michigan - where they took less than a tenth of a cent on the dollar, as a token payment.

I was prepared to file bankruptcy, but I had two cars, two credit cards (not maxed out) and some stock ownership, which would have covered about 50 percent of the money I owed. That stock was inherited from a family member, and to me, sale was not negotiable. (Later sold it at great profit - Big Pharma, which was turning ugly).

So, it all turned out, but I was close. I didn't want the various attorneys and/or auditors snooping around my affairs, maybe for years, looking for fraud.
 

The new Poverty in America! (Credit Card Crisis!)​

Mar 13, 2025

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Chips and Cigarettes NO LONGER AFFORDABLE!​

Mar 16, 2025

Convenience stores across the country are saying sales are down 4.3% year over year and chips and cigarette sales in particular are taking a hit. And of course these items are discretionary and not necessary which is yet another economic warning sign people are going broke.

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Well...every dark cloud has a silver lining.

You look at the Foo Stamm people...they don't need to be eating chips. What they need is DISCIPLINE - and a strict diet will teach you all KINDS of discipline.

I'm on one right now. It's amazing, how much TIME is spent buying food, thinking about where to buy/what to buy/what to prepare, food; of all the time-wastes involving food.

Long ago, before my metabolism went wonky, I would go to a local Chinese buffet, twice a week or so. It was cheap, and if there was cat in the suey, I didn't taste it. It punctuated my midweek.

Even now there's a local pizza joint that sells pizza by the slice. It's VERY good pizza, and their "Happy Hour" price is $4.20 for two slices (yeah, tells you where the owners' minds are at). Great place to get a late lunch, or an early dinner, or whatever.

Breakfast at Paradise Falls. For $16 (seven years ago) you got a breakfast that came on a hand truck. Four plates. I'd eat it all, and be done with food for the day.

Now, the diet says NYET to all this. I have my simple Keto-friendly dinner and that is IT. Aside from everything else, I'm saving money like crazy.

I don't like feeling hungry for 18 hours out of every day, though.

But I need to. Most people need to. Pricing them out of chips, is a blessing in a bad costume.
 

“We NEED THE TAX REFUND TO PAY THE BILLS”​

Mar 19, 2025

40% of Americans now rely on their annual tax refund just to be able to make ends meet and pay bills. It used to be that the tax refund would be used to splurge, to go on a vacation, or just to save the extra money and get a little bit further ahead in life. But those days are over as most people are now drowning in debt and need any financial leg up necessary.

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It's unsettling...upsetting if you're retired or otherwise on fixed-income.

But, you know what? We saw this schitt-show before. From the Rise of Jimmuh - a stillborn Cult of Personality surrounding a nasty, parsimonious moralist, to Ronald Reagan's cleaning up the mess. Left by Jimmuh and I-Am-Not-A-Crook, a RINO pretending to be a Communist fighter. He, Nixon, was a Communist secret-admirer.

Anyway. We saw almost-but-not-quite hyperinflation; we SAW the explosive rise in the prices of meat, coffee, and other staples. Nixon already showed us, with Price Controls, that there was no quick fixes. And President Smirky couldn't do anything other than pose in a sweater and tell us to turn down the heat.

I was 19, 20 years old and living in an apartment heated to 55 degrees.

I needed a new (to me) car. The price of used cars exploded, because the prices of new cars had exploded. EVEN THOUGH no one was buying them, what with 15-percent car notes, and strict credit requirements. I didn't know any at the time, but later I met autoworkers in Cleveland who were laid off in 1977, and didn't return to work until 1983. That's a long time to be juggling finances.

The period around 1980 was the worst...seemed half of Michigan and much of Ohio were all moving to Texas. Living in tent cities north of town - now, I'm sure it's all built up with luxury suburban homes; but back then it was a series of migrant camps.

Sudden change like this is destabilizing. Those who haven't planned, have to do stupid stuff - like live on credit-cards and tax refunds, or sell the family jewels, or move to Boomtown and live in a truck camper.

The moral here is not, oh, woe is us, but, PLAN FOR A RAINY DAY. As in, avoid debt and grow the stacks. Dollars are fictions and the the children are in charge, still trying to continue the currency debasement.
 
Nobody cleaned up nothing, it was moved to the national debt.... and it started with Woodrow Wilson.
 
Nobody cleaned up nothing, it was moved to the national debt.... and it started with Woodrow Wilson.
Depends on how you define it. No, nothing was solved, but things were brought down to a manageable level.

Spending continued to grow, but it was apparent there was some discretion being used. Nonsense like CETA and the Synthetic Fuels (NGO) Corporation, abolished. Tax receipts exploded because of the tax-rate cuts (Laffer Curve). We were set on a course that carried us forward, in prosperity, for 26 years. I don't see that as failure.
 
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Like I said...us grey-heads have been through this.

We all thought it was pretty heartless of the banks, to turn down friends' loan applications. Cliff, a hardworking quiet kid who wanted to be a farmer, did chores on contract for other farmers, in addition to his day job with us. He had a rusted-out old F100 and wanted a better truck. He found a new stripper, and tried to borrow to buy it. I think the cost was $5200 or thereabouts - 1978.

Turned down. I remember us talking about that in the break room, one day when Cliff wasn't there. Nobody'd work harder to pay a loan back, and he can't GET one. How can this be. Those banks!

Turns out, with the wisdom of time, tightening consumer credit in those times, was the better way. Auto repossessions were rare. What was plentiful was people with experience keeping old beaters running. It's how I learned it...

Liar Loans and NINJA (No-Income-No-Job-Approved) isn't so smart, no matter how hard the government and Banksters try to push it.
 
The bitch!!! lol

Mom REFUSES To PAY OFF Son's $15,000 Credit Card Debt​

Mar 21, 2025

Some people just need to learn lessons the hard way in life otherwise they may never learn. This mother finally realized this after repeatedly bailing out her son financially, one day she said enough is enough.

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Credit card debt is unsecured, that will teach people to lend that kid money...
 
Credit card debt is unsecured, that will teach people to lend that kid money...
Have the banksters EVER learned such a lesson? Obombah made Liar-Loan mortgages obligatory as a sort of Reparations. Instead of pushing back, the banksters saluted and goose-stepped to work...and then when what couldn't be avoided, happened, and defaults threatened the banking system...they didn't learn. They didn't use their lobbyists to stand up for their industry. They demanded BAILOUTS - and with appropriate graft salted into PACs, GOT the bailouts.

And here we are. Carmageddon. Plus the House of Credit Cards, about to fall.

Moar bailouts. Moar money-printing. That's the world the banksters love and want.
 
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Here's what Jack has to say about "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."

Ultimate Recession Proof! (People are Financing food!)​

Mar 25, 2025

People are financing their food! What are your thoughts on Door Dash and Klarna creating eat now, pay later!

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Live a fool's life, and come to a fool's end.

There was a term, in the Dust Bowl years - "Tin-can Tourist," that was, Okies driving their clapped-out jalopies to California, on, basically, hope. They weren't eating in restaurants along the way - and didn't have time to hunt, unless the old tin-lizzie was broke-down. So they'd eat out of tin cans, either packed or purchased along the way.

These people need to rediscover the way to make mac and cheese - out of a Kraft mix, if they can't do it any other way. Good gravy, when I was in koledge, I was making $52 a week, working two nights a week as a desk clerk at a hotel. NIGHT work - 11-to-7.

And half of that went to pay for my $100/month apartment. Admittedly cheap, but that was half my income there.

Survival is a skill, and it's one that Door-Dash chargers don't have.
 

What’s Scaring Americans Into Shopping More​

Mar 28, 2025 #CNBC

Retail sales are holding up, but consumer confidence is slipping. A rising share of Americans are making purchases not out of want, but out of worry. This trend, called "doom spending," is driven by fears of higher prices and supply disruptions. While it may offer a short-term sense of control, it's happening alongside rising debt and financial strain and could set the stage for a sharper slowdown ahead. Watch the video above to learn more about why Americans are spending more amid growing economic concerns.

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Credit Cards are forcing Bankruptcy in 2025!​

Apr 1, 2025

Credit Cards are putting in a position of Bankruptcy in 2025!

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How Two Men Made Billions Exploiting People With Bad Credit​

Apr 2, 2025 Forbes Talks

Las Vegas-based Credit One has become a profit machine by squeezing exorbitant fees out of its subprime customers. This is a look inside the story of how the father of American tennis superstar Emma Navarro and his elusive Wall Street partner became multibillionaires on the backs of people with poor credit.

A former Citi and Goldman Sachs banker, 62-year-old Navarro, has made an estimated $4.8 billion fortune lending to, and collecting from, people with poor or no credit histories. It’s a rough business, one that can involve sticking those who are already struggling financially with onerous fees, badgering them multiple times a day for weeks on end if they fall behind on their payments and taking them to court over several hundred dollars.

Read the full story on Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamc...

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Bad credit and stupidity generally go together. Yes, other people can get into trouble; but living cautiously for a time sweeps past sins beyond the horizon.

And there always have been people ready to exploit the stupid. Three-card Monte games on the sidewalk. Writing a bad check to a simpleton store clerk.

Not to beat the same old drum endlessly, but it's the never-ending gusher of fiat money that has basically enabled this growth of "credit" to where even low-intellect types wind up with credit cards.

What to do? The law should be rewritten...to what it was prior to "reform," to where credit-card accounts are cancelled in personal bankruptcy. Re-install RISK to extending credit to these people.

And, we need to do something about this flood of fiat, enabling major banks to get rich by LENDING money into existence and charging interest on what cost them essentially nothing.

We can abolish all the DEI-AA-EEOC laws that make it harder to deny credit to a bad risk based on his SKIN COLOR.

But remember this: NO ONE forced these people to get a credit card or use it. Yes, I've had solicitations sent me. I throw them away. I've cancelled cards for bad service. My credit score took a hit for that (amazing, closing out a credit line reflects poorly on your rating) but it came right back up.

I live by cash, right now. All bills paid at the end of the month. I don't see the Super Bowl, but life, in general, is a lot easier my way.
 

Adult Children DESTROYING PARENTS' RETIREMENT DREAMS​

Apr 11, 2025
About 47% of parents right now are paying their adult children's bills things like their health insurance their cell phone their rent their food cost pretty much everything that people need and cost a good amount of money. And the worst part is they are putting off and even foregoing their own retirement savings in order to subsidize their kids lifestyle. This is a bad thing for both parents and children and will have devastating effects for decades to come. Do you think we have a bad economy now? Just wait until we have a bunch of 50 or 60-year-olds that don't know how to support themselves.

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Articles Mentioned in the Video
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atla...
https://corridorbusiness.com/uscellul....
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https://apple.news/AAcIIaS2hS7yyscxva...
 

THIS is Why EVERYONE IS GOING BROKE...​

Apr 18, 2025

Everyone is going broke because people are living beyond their means. Some people are living beyond their means out of necessity others are doing it out of choice, even though they are aware it's a bad financial move. Here is a perfect example of how your finances can spiral out of control when you live beyond your means.

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Articles Mentioned in the Video
https://apple.news/A6KMvmbFUQXqRTXas8...
 

More Americans teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. Here's why.​

The number of Americans considering bankruptcy is soaring to its highest level since just before the pandemic, a potentially alarming sign as clouds gather over the economy.

Personal bankruptcy inquiries surged in the first three months of the year, according to data from LegalShield, a provider of consumer legal services. The jump could augur a potential wave of bankruptcy filings as consumers start to buckle under a record level of debt and as tariffs fuel inflation, the company warned in a report this week.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...S&cvid=50d81a310c964a4c9378f878237336a8&ei=12
 
As we shift/have-shifted into a Debt-based Economy, the limits become less clear.

I've been there. I've recalled how it was I became a Stacker - it all started with me trying to get set up in a high-cost city (Denver) with a secure-but-lower-paying job. I didn't live beyond my means, not overly - a new car (being late to work was a firable offense) but a cheap stripper. A Nissan truck with zero options. An apartment, rent $500 (cheap in Denver at the time). And all the costs associated with starting from nothing - since I had separated from the Navy.

Well, work is HARD. Not so much the physical, but the strain of work-and-sleep. So there was the occasional desire to get into Rocky Mountain National Park, or have a dinner out, or other recreation.

You can imagine I was living close to the edge. Prices kept rising. I'd be $50 over my monthly earnings, then break even, then $200 over, then it's VACATION time. I had three pieces of plastic in my pocket.

Pretty soon I had high four digits owed. Oh, a pay raise with seniority will take care of it.

The pay raise and better hours, happened. That took care of...the interest. The balance remained.

I changed jobs, and moved back to my adopted hometown, Cleveland. Didn't want to, but a chance for more money, a better job, and being close to the aging parental units, made the decision.

Now I'm making half-again as much, and paying NO rent. The balance on the card, five figures, didn't grow; but the interest was more than my car payment.

I got saved by dark serendipity. I got hurt, on the railroad. Miraculously, I was so blameless - though on the job - they couldn't argue a case that we, my partner and I, were in any way involved (train was stationary, awaiting paperwork from the bosses...start of our shift). If they could have twisted it, they'd have fired me along with the two other saps who lost their jobs.

A train alongside us came off the rails, knocked our locomotive. I jumped off - officially I was "knocked off."

I got a BIG settlement out of the railroad - railroads and mines are not covered under Workers Compensation; they have a different legal structure.

What it did, was, essentially, match the horrific balance on my credit cards. Almost to the dollar. Get out of (credit) Jail, FREE! Holy sheep-shearing, that was better than a winning lottery ticket.

And I internalized that lesson. I've had others reinforce it (lost a metric excrement-ton in the GFC, and focused on Stacks ever since) but it's how I learned that a life without debt, while modest, is living free.

This is something ALL young people need to learn, and not my way, either.
 
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