Bank runs, bank holiday & 10pct bailout tax on deposits in Cyprus

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The EU finance ministers decided yesterday that all depositors at Cyprian banks will have to pay for the bailout of the government, regardless of whether their bank is in trouble or not. Collectivism at it's best. It's also gonna hit local and smaller depositors more heavily, because smart money (Russian money launderers and hedge funds) has left the country long ago anyway. This is a primary example of the immorality of bailouts. There are bank runs happening all over Cyprus today, but the bailout tax has already been substracted from the account balances. I also haven't read a word about the participation of government and/or bank bondholders in the bailouts. It seems they haven't been asked to give something which makes perfect sense, because the bondholders are mainly foreign banks and not domestic depositors...

I'm predicting that this is gonna cause capital flights from other weak Eurozone countries' banks to "safe" countries like Germany, the Netherlands or Finnland, thereby increasing the Target2 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARGET2#Relation_to_European_sovereign_debt_crisis_and_criticism ) imbalances between the Eurozone countries.


Here's the news by AFP:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...docId=CNG.4339e45bc5c512fa24c45ef2921cd51a.21
 
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This gives even more credence to the discussions that not only could this happen in other countries including the US, but that one day, sooner or later, there may also come a mandatory 401k retirement fund "tax" to help bail out the US Govy's debts.
 
When money is electronic ones and zeros stored in a bank's computers, it's very easy to steal.
 
So this is how it begins. Wait and see what the peripheral effects will be. Do you think Greek and Spanish banks were in trouble before this iddotic plan? Just wait until this news flash sinks in to depositors heads. When they start making folks who had absolutely nothing to do with a banks troubles pay through the nose for bailouts, don't cry a river when they flee those countries perceived as weak.

What a monumentally stupid thing to do. I sincerely believe this will be the straw that broke the camels back. The Technocrats just signed their own death warrants.
 
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Financial commentators can't believe it:
 
This is just one more step that Warlord Dragon (Mario Draghi) is taking to consolidate the power of the ECB worldwide. Sacrifice Cyprus to force other countries to toe the ECBs line. Once the Warlord has Europe toeing the line, watch for him to extend his reach across the Atlantic. Unfortunately, our spend-fake-money policies are playing right into his hands.

It may signal the end of the Euro, but if the Euro goes, the ONLY thing I see that could replace it would be the return of the German Mark (probably backed by gold), as no other country can possibly fill the gap.
 

Yeah, we heard that same story here in the USA when legislators were pressured to pass TARP.

In a capitalist market, bad actors get punished for risks gone bad and new actors fill the void when they implode.

Of course, this isn't about the bad actors - the "two banks" - this is about the foreign banks and contagion from the debt dominoes.

Global finance is a house of cards.

 

More: http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldn..._Most_Important_Events_In_History_&_Gold.html

Are they going to accelerate their transition into gold?
 
I find the discussion on the web very very telling today. People around the world are furious and demanding that Cuprus tell Brussels to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. While a bailout is still the stealing of the "peoples" money, this is simple thuggery and outright theft. It is not even veiled or disguised; it's pure unadulterated theft. These arrogant fucktards actually think thy can get away with stealing the honestly earned money of Joe Six-Pack to pay the banksters their blood money. If this thing goes through as advertised, Europe will come down in a giant smoking ball of fuck, and could ultimately take out the entire financial system. Tonights open in Asia will be most telling indeed.

The arrogance here is absolutely breathtaking.
 
Yeah, but I think we all know Strauss-Kahn was set up with that "sex scandal". Anyone think Lagarde is gonna rock the boat when the puppet masters tell her to jump after that "in your face" exercise?
 
This weak excuse to blame all this on the Russians is beyond stupid. When the people of Europe realize that the Euro experiment had nothing to do with unity, and everything to do with enslavement to the banks, the revolt will be unstoppable.
 
When the people of Europe realize that the Euro experiment had nothing to do with unity, and everything to do with enslavement to the banks, the revolt will be unstoppable.

The people of Europe basically have no say-so in the matter. Any revolt will be quashed by those in power.

This is a power play amongst those in power to force economic, and eventually political, integration of Europe. Cyprus is just the "example" to show the others what will happen to them if they don't surrender their economies and taxing authority to the beast called the ECB.

Cyprus was chosen because it is so small that no matter what the Cypriots do, it will not economically affect Europe as a whole. Basically the same as your school yard bully going after the weakest to show others what they could be subject to. And, of course, the rest are so cowardly that they fall for the scam.
 
Now they're discussing adjustments to the current plans, ie even higher tax rates than 10% for the larger deposits and lower rates for small ones in the name of "justice". This is just going to increase the panic amoung foreign depositors in other peripheral countries, thereby causing even more capital flight.

Politicians are such giant idiots.

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Pms are probably going to open lower in 5 minutes due to a massive 1+% surge in the DXY. Don't worry about that too much :wave:
 
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I was wrong gold is up even challenging 1600, so is silver

EDIT: 1603 and counting. Markets are finally making sense here. Let's see if we hold these gains.
 
If people don't wake up and smell the coffee right now, they likely never will. Caveat emptor fiat bugs!
 
As usual, ZH is all over this important story...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-17/german-commerzbank-suggests-wealth-tax-italy-next


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-...ute-revision-cyprus-deposit-confiscation-plan

... RBS has put together an excellent summary of everything you need to know about what the Europeans did, why they did it, what the short- and medium-term market reaction is likely to be, and the big picture of this "toxic policy error." ...

More: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-17/cyprus-world’s-biggest-poker-game
 
Best I can tell, the ECB is demanding ~6B Euros or Cyprus can GTFO:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/18/us-cyprus-parliament-idUSBRE92G03I20130318

Oh.. and Putin mad?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/18/us-russia-cyprus-loan-idUSBRE92H07M20130318

Yeah, he mad.

RT reporting that the Cyprus vote is only delayed until Tuesday. ZH's claim that the vote is postponed until Friday was not sourced, so I'm not sure where they got that info.


http://rt.com/business/cyprus-bailout-bank-tax-deposits-401/
 
Daniel Hannan op-ed is a good read (can't help but read it in his voice):
More: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2295007/Fanatics-wholl-save-euro.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
 
Summary of the current events from my perspective:

The first announcement of the deposit tax was a trial balloon. They've gotten the reaction they wanted. The main focus is on small savers. Now they can ride to the rescue and exempt amounts up to 20k or a little more. Meanwhile the tax on larger amounts will be increased, ie class warfare tactics.
Should the Cyprian parliament not ratify the plan for some reason, the bank holiday will be prolonged. Officially, the choice for the goverment is to accept or leave the Eurozone and default as a sovereign as well as have your banking system collapse. That is NOT the choice, however, because the Eurocrats know that they can't let one country be the first dominoe to leave the common currency. The Cyprian government should call their bluff therefore. The Eurocrats have much more to lose then Cyprus, so they're gonna make concessions.
My guess is that they'll eventually find a compromise to "help" small depositors in the name of "justice". This will cause panic amoung large foreign depositors in other peripheral countries.
 
Another aspect of the story, the GIANT Aphrodite gas (and oil) field off the shores of Cyprus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_gas_field
 
Another aspect of the story, the GIANT Aphrodite gas (and oil) field off the shores of Cyprus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_gas_field

Ahaaa! Now we know what the real deal is. These greedy fucks want Cyprus to sign over those energy resources in exchange for some Euro's. What a load of crap. Once Cyprus is subsumed within the bellies of the Brotherhood of Darkness their plan will be nearly complete. A broken nation will make any deal necessary to quell the pain and certainly the hunger of her people. These folks are simply afraid of their masters in Brussels and do not see a Euro exit as something they can feasibly do, when in reality, if they walk away now, allow the banks to shit the bed, the Cypriot phoenix would certainly rise from the ashes and within a few short years begin to bear fruit. They could exploit their national energy reserves and become net exporters of oil and gas. Instead I fear, they will kneel before their masters as the human carnage of what once was a jewel in the Mediterranean is swallowed whole by the Dark Princes.

What a fucking waste.
 
Separation of powers, eh. There's absolutely no connection to the bailout, nothing to see here:

http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/newsticke...onenschatz-aus-deutschland-zurueck-1.18049087
 
http://thenewamerican.com/economy/m...urope-as-cyprus-eu-and-imf-confiscate-savings

"Politicians however — apparently surprised at the boiling rage — are fiendishly working to rework the deal in a way that would decrease the pain felt by small depositors while increasing the amount to be confiscated out of larger bank accounts."

How out of touch do you have to be if you are suprised that people would be furious over this?!
:shrug:
 
Maybe it's possible that the powers that be, realize the Euro is a lost cause.

However they still control the Federal Reserve, BOE, Israel and BOJ.

So rather use the fall of Europe & Japan to strengthen the US, UK and Israel's agenda.

This is their gift to Russia -The planned outcome of this is that Cyprus will accept a bailout from Russia, giving Russia a strategic island & the Aphrodite gas field. In return Russia will back off Syria and Iran.

In the next few weeks events will unfold in Asia, that make Japan and the West seem crazy but workout very favorably for China.
In return China will also back of Iran & Syria.
 

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldn..._Breaking_Loose_After_Cyprus_Catastrophe.html
 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-18/majority-cypriot-parties-refuse-support-deposit-loss-law
 
Read a comment on a another forum that I found hard to reconcile.

This whole crisis is teetering on a fulcrum of ~6B euros. That's roughly ~$7.8B. That's fucking peanuts in today's money printing world. Hell, the Fed is injecting $80B per MONTH into the US economy. WTF!?!?

The risk of systemic banking runs across the Eurozone surely wasn't worth a measly ~6B euro. I can't imagine that this line in the sand is really about economics.

Maybe the speculation I've read that this was ultimately a shot across the bow to Russia to back down on support for Syria/Iran has legs.
 
What that commentor is missing is that it is not 6B euros that people care about, it is that everyone is scared of the thugs stealing their money literally out of their accounts.

But as the articles have said, pissing off the Russians is not a good idea. I wonder if this is happening now, as the weather is warming up, so that TPTB can try this nonsense with less of a threat from the Russians of closing the spiggot. Gas shortage in Europe over winter and the contitent is frozen.
 
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