Greek exit coming soon

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dont know why everyone gets so excited about a little rule breaking

its the new normal and as you can see, everything is just fine.

Either change the rules or pretend to comply and know that there will always be enough fiats in the magic porridge pot ..........

what could possibly go wrong ?
 
(...) Greece threatens, begs, and even lies in order to receive bailout funds only to then turn around and complete renege on the terms of the agreement(...)
"dzeeniuus, dzeeniuus, dzeeniuus"
 

http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/07/22/germany-press-imf-wont-contribute-further-aid-to-greece/
 
Thus far, they are still saying all the right things to suggest it's no where near imminent. Merkel is doing her part...

I'm not convinced that Greek simply wont be the 1st country to completely lose sovereignty to the EU. I don't want that to happen, but it's starting to looking like that it might be happening.
 
Ireland has lost her sovereignty already, Troika dictates the cuts and budgets here, so Greece has no chance to become "the first" ;-)

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More: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/10/swedish-finance-minister-expects-greece.html

It would appear that fecal matter is accelerating in a collision vector with the rotating metal blades.
 
weird how its all apocalyptic and everyones in panic mode then it all goes quiet and while nothing appears to have changed, something must have ........

i find it hard to treat any financial 'news' seriously these days as every aspect seems to be 'managed'
would we even know if the system had already collapsed ?

ooohh it has ??? ........... sorry short attention span (-;
 
I don't know guys, IMHO, announcing the inevitable (Greece exit from EZ), or indeed, breaking up the EZ into suitable "core" (eg, letting only countries which are suited for, and would be ECONOMICALLY better off, having a single currency union) altogether - would rather signal to the markets that the jokers in charge here are getting real & serious, and I think after some short & sharp correction in Euro, it would actually strengthen it significantly, shortly after that initial sharp dip. That I am quite confident would be the case.

I don't think that managed exit would start any chain reaction - actually, postponing the inevitable, and trying to bounce the dead cat at all costs, is what makes the whole thing more risky (increases the chance of some violent and uncontrolled unwind, to a near certainty, if played with long enough).

Managed exit is a rational thing to do, and markets in general like nothing more than rational governments. So sorry, we have so very little of the later, globally.
 
It doesn't cost TPTB anything to hang on to Greece; it costs us slaves. So why would they let anyone go?
 
It doesn't cost TPTB anything to hang on to Greece; it costs us slaves. So why would they let anyone go?

yeah, i think this is whats probably happened to cause the panic to subside.
So we all sink together ........ ITS THE RULE !

until it isnt
 
I see that there's a little action over there today... I don't think it's going to cease anytime soon.

 
What we see in the headlines is not what is going on in Greece. There are scores and scores of people who cannot get their medicine because the government owes the pharmaceutical companies so much money they are no longer honring contracrts to deliver drugs. People are dying every day from illnesses that are easily treated, yet they cannot get the needed drugs unless they pony up cash. People are literally starving to death because they have been unemployed for so long and are unable to find a job. Kids are going to school hungry because the EU is forcing the slaves to pay for the mistakes and thievery of their government. This is the perfect picture of what happens when you run out of other people's money.

Socialism cannot work as the model is simply unsustainable. Just look at that idiot Hollande. He is chasing all of the wealth and talent out of France with confiscatory taxes so that he can provide largesse to those who would choose th either not work or those who cannot work.
 
Aren't they kind of hanging onto Greece since most of the "bailout" money they get just goes back to German banks anyway? I think I read on ZH sometime ago that something like 90% of the money went right on back to bail out other institutions in the core.
 
Greece holds another election in a couple of weeks (Jan 25th). It's possible that Syriza will win and they favor exiting the Euro. Money flows are signalling fear:
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/01/another-run-on-greek-banks-begins-get.html


http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...uropean-union-syriza-merkel-tsipras/21290883/
 
When Syriza wins, and I suspect they will, they will exit the Euro Zone and begin to use drachma again. They will also repudiate the "debt" owed to the EU core. When they do this, it will start a chain reaction. Spain, Portugal and Italy will soon follow. The EU will either stay together as a northern coalition or come completely apart at the seams, with all nations reverting back to self rule and national currencies.
 
The EU will either stay together as a northern coalition or come completely apart at the seams, with all nations reverting back to self rule and national currencies.

Regardless of how things work out, the EU, in some form, though probably in a two-tier formula (with master and slave states), will continue to exist.

The Euro itself was doomed from the start. It is impossible to have a central currency without a central taxing authority, central monetary authority, and central political authority. And I suspect that the promoters of the Euro knew that from the start, knowing that after the Euro had raped all of the weaker states, that the stronger states would become the Masters and the rest the Slaves. Since there is currently only one strong state (Germany) it looks like Germany will become the central taxing authority for the Euro, or the Euro will be replaced by a NeuMark with Germany still the central taxing authority. The rest of the EU will then be either willing or unwilling slaves of the Master.

In a nutshell, Germany has done what Hitler could not do - conquered Europe without firing a shot. Now that Europe is in her pocket, watch for the horizons to be expanded worldwide particularly against the ancient nemesis of Germany, the English speaking world. You can already see it happening in the UK (due to the UK volunteering to be raped when they joined the EU), but the signs are already starting to show that the U.S. is a prime target, and our government is WILLINGLY going along!!! Latest indicator is normalization of Cuba/U.S. relations pushed primarily by the anti-free market Pope.
 
Dave Cameron was cheerfully talking about the UK leaving the EU.

Think it was just some scare stuff to get us all to want to stay in but the threat from Ukip is pretty serious.
 
The German tax payer are giddy

When Greece drops the euro the Germans will hold a celebration. That would save Berlin or Frankfurt a ton of cash in bailout money.:clap:
 
When Greece drops the euro the Germans will hold a celebration. That would save Berlin or Frankfurt a ton of cash in bailout money.:clap:

Not sure.. It all depends how well german banks prepared for this.
 
So the election is this Sunday. The SNB just dropped the peg to the Euro. The ECB just announced a 1 trillion euro money printing commitment. There is a lot of poo flying around at the moment. I guess we live in interesting times.
 
When Greece drops the euro the Germans will hold a celebration. That would save Berlin or Frankfurt a ton of cash in bailout money.:clap:
...and where exactly are the "bailouts" funds going, you think?

All the so called bailouts of the bankrupted entities, were actually bail outs of the CREDITORS of the bankrupted entities.
Paid by the taxpayers, of course.
 
Monday will prove to be quite interesting if the anti-euro groups take a clear majority.
 
Syriza's intellectual leaders are a bunch of commie and progressive ivory tower economists, some from very wealthy oligarchic families:

https://translate.google.ch/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fsoziales%2Fgriechenland-fuenf-oekonomen-fuer-syriza-a-1014655.html&edit-text=

smells like controlled opposition.

Add on to that Greek bonds are not part of the ECB QE program and you get the picture: Greece is gonna leave the Euro soon and Syriza will orchestrate the move. The EU governments already know it. Thats why Syriza is allowed to win now. Germany said they are prepared for a Grexit as well.
 
I am not sure to what degree it is controlled opposition, and to what, it is simply inept ideologically and philosophically, impotent intellectual& political leadership of today. Corrupted by cultural Marxism (the only successful branch of Marxism, unfortunately, so prominent and influential across the board in the western civilization today).

Remember, never assume a conspiracy, if it can be explained by the stupidity and lack of competence

In the long while, that I was away (from pm bug, lol), I've came to the conclusion, that our current problems run much deeper, than conservative/progressive, false dualism. Both sides of the aisle are equally inept and uprooted from the philosophical, rational foundation of the western society. Well, ok, progressives, are even more stupid that conservatives ;-), but that doesn't mean, that the latter are intelligent/rational/consistent enough, to do any good.
 


EXIT POLL
SYRIZA 35,5-39,5 ND 23-27 Potami 6,4-8 Golden Dawn 6,4-8 KKE 4,7-5,7 PASOK 4,2-5,2 Ind.Greeks 3.5-4.5 Kinima 2,2-3,2

Syriza = Socialists
Golden Dawn = Nazis
KKE = Commies

together more than 50% of the vote

 
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Got to hand it to the socialists for their international networking abilities. The Greek socialists of Syriza who just won the general election by a wide margin probably received foreign funding.
In the video below you can see signs in Italian ("L'altra Europa..."), English and German ("Ich unterstütze..."). The English and German signs are showing the banner of "Die Linke" (the left), the German socialist party that inherited the assets of the Eastern German socialist party (SED) from the time before the iron curtain fell.

 

http://news.sky.com/story/1414691/greece-to-leave-disastrous-austerity-behind
 

No surprise that he met the Russian ambassador first. The oldtimers in his party were all Soviet spies / agents who openly received orders from Moscow. I wouldnt be surprised if Putin financed part of his campaign. The video I posted above is from R[ussia]T of all places.
Communist parties in Western Europe were controlled by the Soviets for decades during the cold war.

The memorial visit is a cheap to try to get bargaining power with Germany for a debt jubilee.

Note: My wife is Russian and she hates Putin.
 
Great write up/ summary of the situation by Molyneux:
=> via @Podcast_Addict
 
Cant watch it Bushi
Not enough bandwidth or data allowance with the satellite connection )-:

Can you summarise ?
 
I fully sympathize with Greece. Her people finally got rid of the technocratic idiots that were really the tools of the EU, and not true patriots. These people are tired of the endless misery their tax burdens have created. They are also waking up to the reality that shit is going to get harder before it gets easier. Making nice with Putin will make sure they have access to financial assistance and an open market for their goods. The west is trying to strangle Putin with stupid economic sanctions over a country that on a relative basis, produces very little and provides nothing for the EU except a buffer zone between west Europe and the Russian border.

It is a grievous error to torture Greece in to submission, since history bears out that they are incredibly resilient and intolerant of those trying to impose their will upon them.

Sure, they'll be frozen out of most capital markets, but China and Russia should be able to provide them with help without really feeling it.
 
The west is trying to strangle Putin with stupid economic sanctions over a country that on a relative basis, produces very little and provides nothing for the EU except a buffer zone between west Europe and the Russian border.

Greece does provide a stepping stone to the Middle East via Cyprus. Sooner or later the EU must do something about the Middle East and Cyprus provides the perfect military base to launch an attack if Iran shuts down the Hormuz Strait and the Red Sea/Suez Canal shipping lanes.

Russia and Iran can strangle the EU by shutting off the oil. Russia, with Chinese backing, is too big for the EU to attack, but Iran is not, so if Russia and Iran team up to shut off the oil to the EU, watch for fireworks to be launched from the EU military bases on Cyprus, the closest EU bases to Iran still within the EU.
 
Tsipras open letter to Germany:
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2015/01/alexis-tsipras-open-letter-to-german.html
 
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