No banks are safe (bail ins, FDIC limits, systemic risks)

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FDIC insured limits went up to $250K a while back (not that the number really means anything in the event of a systemic crisis).

http://www.fdic.gov/consumers/consumer/news/cnsum10/250k_fed_deposit_insurance.html
 

More: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...es-idle-accounts/story-fn3dxiwe-1226949007917
 

http://www.goldcore.com/goldcore_blog/U_S_Bail_Ins_Fed_Vice_Chair_Fischer_Says_Preparing_A_Proposal
 

http://usawatchdog.com/big-banks-will-take-depositors-money-in-next-crash-ellen-brown/


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-12/russell-napier-declares-november-16-2014-day-money-dies

I missed this news when it happened a few weeks ago, but it's important enough to document.
 
I think that is complete bullshit. Bond holders must take losses first. Period. If this does come to pass, I will remove my money from the bank each week and keep it somewhere else, but not in a fucking bank. They could use nearly any method of accounting on any given day to show they are insolvent, proceed to strip mine all depositors accounts, then distribute worthless equity shares to depositors. The shares would almost certainly be subordinated against all other bank shares and equity.

I'm not sure how exactly this is supposed to engender any feelings of security with our financial system. Rather than hold banks accountable for their actions and treat them as you would any other mom and pop that is insolvent, they want to let them steal our deposits to cover their bad decisions. What a total load of horse shit.
 

http://www.goldcore.com/us/gold-blog/bail-ins-at-bad-bank-unconstitutional-says-austrian-court/
 

http://www.goldcore.com/us/gold-blog/bank-bail-ins-begin-as-eu-bank-bailed-in-in-austria/
 
Just browsing through all the financial news this morning and my goodness trepidation is permeating the ether. Bonds, equities, Euro banks all (potentially) signalling trouble. Ever since 2008, we have been talking about the proverbial can being kicked down the road and the inevitability of the day when it can't be kicked any further. Is the big one - the systemic crisis that can't be stopped - coming?
 
Ive been anticipating it since Y2k .........

Part of me says bring it on and lets get to the other side as quickly as we can, another part of me ponders the inevitable suffering with food and fuel shortages and if the price will be too high ?
 
It's true. There are no safe banks, that is why it is better to invest in precious metals, they are money in themselves
 
Bail in legislation now in effect in Canada:
More: http://www.mondaq.com/canada/x/736932/Financial+Services/BailIn+Implementation+Update
 
Australia passed their bail in legislation back in February:
More: https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/g...s-your-cash-now-/tabid/88/a/1722/default.aspx
 
While I like getting rid of the "too big to fail" mindset & the idea of not using taxpayer money to bail out businesses that are grossly mismanaged, giving them free rein to steal depositors/investors (who are usually taxpayers & paying taxes on interest/gains) money is not much better, maybe even worse. I've never kept much money in banks & never will. I think this coupled with things like what went on in Cyprus & Greece a few years ago should show people not to keep much money in their bank.
 
That's horrible. According to one news report of the incident I found, the crux of the issue stems from a restriction on withdrawals of foreign currency imposed back in 2019. I guess she didn't want to convert her foreign savings to local currency and withdraw? I couldn't find more details to fully understand the situation.
 
I hide my stash in the mud wall.
 

Video at link:

 
I guess I missed this news a while back...



 
Pretty simplified explanation. Most of you probably already know this stuff.

Can Banks Just Take Your Money (The Answer Is It Depends) | Bank Bail In vs Bail Out 2023​

Mar 3, 2023

10:29

1. What's the difference between a bank bail in vs bail out
2. How to protect your money if a bail-in does happen (because it's easier to do this than you might think)
3. What role the FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation) plays in this context
4. What happened in the last bail-in

I'll also talk briefly about the AIG bail out, the Dodd Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2010 & the Cyprus bank bail in of 2013.

SOURCES: https://home.treasury.gov/data/troubl...
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-c...
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/...
https://www.fdic.gov/resources/deposi...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cy...
 


^ Click link to see the list of banks in a chart form with full data
 
Some FDIC stuff I came across on another site.

Quarterly Banking Profile

Historical Designated Reserve Ratio

Crisis & Response: FDIC History 2008 - 2013

As a side note, I don't think we're heading into a Bankageddon but we do need a strong financial watchdog organization. The CFPB is under attack. Who or what should be responsible to keep banks and other financial institutions in check?

 
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Wow. Consider this... depositors are considered "creditors" by the bank.
Yep, always have been. When you deposit money, you are making a loan to the bank. Ie: you become a creditor to the bank.
 
Yep, always have been. When you deposit money, you are making a loan to the bank. Ie: you become a creditor to the bank.
Which makes you wonder...why deposit $500,000 in a bank account, instead of just buying that much of the bank's STOCK?
 
It's too early for me to get into the weeds here, and look for sooper-sekrut body cues...

...but I'm guessing the point is, this was deliberate.

No DOUBT, IMHO. The system as it was/is, is unsustainable. It WOULD crash; but WHEN, has a lot to do with what the Masterminds do. Like, say, blow it up.

That's been Tom Luongo's assertion - since the Grate Reset failed, and Davos Man unmasked...rather than just fail, the Oligarch Club is going to take everything down in flames WITH them.
 
...but I'm guessing the point is, this was deliberate.

From what I've been reading across many disparate crannies, it looks to me like:

1) SVB wasn't really operating too differently with respect to their asset management from what many regional banks do.
2) SVB was attempting to shore up their balance sheet in a responsible manner, but had piss poor timing and zero "read the room" awareness regarding the Silvergate troubles
3) Peter Thiel et al sparked a bank run

SVB would have likely been survived point 2 if not for point 3. The bank run was the dagger to the heart. Were the actors who sparked the bank run acting in bad faith (wanting SVB to fail or wanting to capitalize on short selling positions) or good faith (wanting to protect SVB customers from potential SVB/Silvergate contagion)? That's something that internet keyboard warriors aren't likely to suss out with any degree of certainty.

I expect that Peter Thiel et al are going to have some conversations with govco investigators. This drama is far from it's denouement IMO.
 
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It was the various vulture-capital firms that started the run.

They were overexposed. They'd parked the bulk of their operating capital in uninsured accounts/structures in this one bank.

There were rumors of stress, due to the factors mentioned. The CEO, stupidly, started calling large depositors, to assure them.

Sure. When someone important takes time to tell people there's no problem...that's a dead giveaway there's a BIG problem.

So, from Thursday, the big players started pulling their money out. Many large cashier's checks were ordered and executed.

The run was on.
 
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