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nickndfl said:
Long range bombers are like battleships in 1942.
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Huh ? Even our B-52's, which BTW were pouring money into to upgrade, are greatly feared by our adversarys because of their weapons loads of precision, long range missilery they can deliver. As are our B1b's, which BTW were pouring money into putting missile carriages under their wings. These are among our most potent instruments of global power. Even in a GPS degraded environment they are capable of 10 to 20 meter accuracy for 2,000 class warheads. Our LRASM's are the deadliest ship killers in the world that are carried by these bombers.

They are stealthy thinking machines with 2,000 lb warheads that can sink or disable any warship on the planet. And we have a huge fleet of ATA refueling tankers to support them. Believe me, Ive seen them in action.
 
Not a good look

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not sure why X link doesn't appear here. I still see the post on X.

 
I have no clue if this is true or not.

WW3 tension spike as Vladimir Putin 'giving detailed thought to using nukes in Ukraine'​

Vladimir Putin is seriously contemplating the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, warns a former high-ranking British Army officer. Despite Russia's overwhelming advantage in manpower and weaponry, it has struggled to make substantial progress on the battlefield.

A recent study by the US Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) highlighted that since January 2024, Russia has only managed to capture approximately 5,000 square kilometers of territory. This represents less than one percent of Ukraine's total land area and has been achieved at a steep price in terms of lives lost and equipment expended.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...nukes-in-ukraine/ar-AA1Iyuyx?ocid=socialshare
 
Putin has waved that nuclear button around so many times its really lost its impact. His generals want nothing to do with it because tactically using nukes just wont help them. Tactical nuclear weapons are effective only in the deployment against massed formations of armor and army's, or air fields. The Ukraine war has devolved into a war of hit and miss dispersed/infantry-centric skirmish lines where the most effective weapon is the small 1 man drone. I'll add artillery to that mix. Ukraines air force, indeed Russia's air force, are largely out of the battle already. Russia's use of drones and missiles are mostly used as terror weapons against civilian targets and are having little to no effect on the battle itself.

So the use of tactical nukes would basically be political terror weapons and deploying them would demonize Putin and the Russian's with most of the world. China especially. It likely would trigger a NATO response of some kind and if the radiation drifted to the NATO side could possibly cause NATO to use one. It would more then likely trigger NATO air raids and the Russian Air Force can't afford that. So actually using nukes would bring little benefit and would come at a high cost in all aspects.
 

Putin’s spies have infiltrated every section of British society​

The Foreign Office’s exposure and sanctioning of Russian individuals and organisations working against the UK demonstrates that we are a prime focus for Putin’s political warfare, which is the use of all means other than armed conflict to achieve the state’s objectives. Russia’s targets are worldwide, but it is obvious that Britain is a priority given our leading role in supporting Ukraine. Indeed, some have suggested that the UK is the number one target behind Ukraine, even above the US, as Putin still hopes to lure Trump away from giving his full backing to Kyiv.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...-british-society/ar-AA1ITl3I?ocid=socialshare
 
As far as I'm concerned the only good Russian is a dead Russian. I just want western Europe, and Ukraine, to pay the bills.

Putin doesn't want a deal ? So be it. Its time to play hard ball. The Cold War was my war and I'll never back down from these bastards.
 

Putin’s spies have infiltrated every section of British society​

That must be why the whole of <redacted - see forum guidelines on epithets> government is so loony for WAR!

It's Putin's doing it. Everything that's not the way we want it, is all PUTIN's fault.
 

North Korea sends troops, ammunition to Russia: What it means for NATO | DW News​


Jul 21, 2025 #Ukraine #Russia #NorthKorea
As Russia steps up its attacks on Ukraine, the Kremlin is once again seeking help from North Korea. South Korean intelligence reports that the country has already sent Russia weapons and North Korean troops could soon be sent to the front.


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00:00 North Korea's role in the war in Ukraine
03:23 DW speaks with Frank Ledwidge, military expert and Senior lecturer in strategic studies at Portsmouth University
 
I separate from the rest of MAGA due to my experiences fighting the Cold War. Putin is terrorizing the people of Ukraine. I know their History and he has no cultural claim to it. He simply wants it. He wants to steal its resources and Industrial potential. Its grand theft thru terror is what it is. The "cultural claim" he talks about is the remnants of Stalin's great terror and mass deportations of entire tribes to be replaced by white Russians because Stalin never trusted the owners of small private land plots in the Ukraines rich agriculture lands. Thus he unleashed the Holodomor on its people, forced collectivization of farms that starved millions to death.

I know history. Oh I know History.

Its in Ukraine we make our stand. I say arm them to the teeth and send the body bags home to Moscow. Putin is a no good Oligarch scumbag not interest in peace at all. A Cold War refugee who wants to resurrect the Union whose fall he's never accepted.

We can help but the rest of NATO has to get off the Yankee nipple and start spending. I know a tyrant when I see one. Vlad Putin is a Tyrant. One of the worst.
 
SilverStacker said:
We can help but the rest of NATO has to get off the Yankee nipple and start spending. I know a tyrant when I see one. Vlad Putin is a Tyrant. One of the worst.
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Yah. What's happening in Russia is just turrible. All those clean streets, new commercial buildings, smiling people...

And the way Putin carried on like Hitler when talking to Tucker Carlson. Shocking, I tell ya...

The Russians deserve the freedom of press gangs, and daylong haranguing speeches, and May Day parades of goose-stepping soldiers....
 
SilverStacker said:
I separate from the rest of MAGA due to my experiences fighting the Cold War. Putin is terrorizing the people of Ukraine. I know their History and he has no cultural claim to it. He simply wants it. He wants to steal its resources and Industrial potential. Its grand theft thru terror is what it is. The "cultural claim" he talks about is the remnants of Stalin's great terror and mass deportations of entire tribes to be replaced by white Russians because Stalin never trusted the owners of small private land plots in the Ukraines rich agriculture lands. Thus he unleashed the Holodomor on its people, forced collectivization of farms that starved millions to death.

I know history. Oh I know History.

Its in Ukraine we make our stand. I say arm them to the teeth and send the body bags home to Moscow. Putin is a no good Oligarch scumbag not interest in peace at all. A Cold War refugee who wants to resurrect the Union whose fall he's never accepted.

We can help but the rest of NATO has to get off the Yankee nipple and start spending. I know a tyrant when I see one. Vlad Putin is a Tyrant. One of the worst.
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Kinda curious where you fought Russians during the Cold War.

Russia has 75 trillion in oil, gas and minerals. Putin could care less about anything Ukraine has.

Since you know history you also know about the Minsk agreement. You are probably also aware that the CIA helped overthrow the government there and installed the clown that is now running the show. And of course you are aware of the speech that Kamala gave in Munich I think it was that started this whole thing. You know, the one where she said we wanted Ukraine to join Nato. A huge no no according to the Minsk agreement.

Putin is probably the smartest world leader right now. You might want to listen to some of his speeches and interviews he does. He will sit down and talk with business leaders and the media for long periods of time and answer everything they ask off the top of his head.

A tyrant? Perhaps you can give us some examples of his tyranny? Is he as bad as our government who uses the IRS to extract billions for it's citizens by illegally enforcing tax laws that they claim are interpreted against US citizens when in fact they are laws for US persons. If you dont understand the difference between the 2 then please refrain from commenting on this part.
So maybe as a tyrant he has set up a mass surveillance state to monitor everyone with like 16 spy agencies? Nope that's the US government.
Maybe he has invaded countries for no reason and taken out their leaders like we did in Iraq. Or illegally bombing Iran with 0 evidence provided to back up the governments claims? Nope, that was us again.
Surely it must have been Russia who took out Kadaffi in Libya. Nope, again that was US.

Russia is surrounded by NATO except in the Ukraine. The only way this ends peacefully if for the US and Europe to back down and give up Ukraine. The neocons will never allow that to happen though and they now somehow got Trump on board. Probably with the thought of 75 trillion in Russian minerals if we could just take them over.

More than likely China gets involved and supports Russia with troops and armaments. When that happens any thoughts of a conventional war come to an end. We dont have enough bombs and bullets to take out 1.4 billion Chinese. Nuclear war is the only alternative.
 
SilverStacker said:
I separate from the rest of MAGA due to my experiences fighting the Cold War. Putin is terrorizing the people of Ukraine. I know their History and he has no cultural claim to it. He simply wants it. He wants to steal its resources and Industrial potential. Its grand theft thru terror is what it is. The "cultural claim" he talks about is the remnants of Stalin's great terror and mass deportations of entire tribes to be replaced by white Russians because Stalin never trusted the owners of small private land plots in the Ukraines rich agriculture lands. Thus he unleashed the Holodomor on its people, forced collectivization of farms that starved millions to death.

I know history. Oh I know History.

Its in Ukraine we make our stand. I say arm them to the teeth and send the body bags home to Moscow. Putin is a no good Oligarch scumbag not interest in peace at all. A Cold War refugee who wants to resurrect the Union whose fall he's never accepted.

We can help but the rest of NATO has to get off the Yankee nipple and start spending. I know a tyrant when I see one. Vlad Putin is a Tyrant. One of the worst.
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History doesn't support your position.

Starting with Victoria Nuland overthrowing the Ukraine government in 2014 and being caught discussing the 'new' president on a phone call and saying "F" the EU, NATO has expanded more than 1 inch eastward.

The Cold War is over. There is nothing in the EU that Putin wants. They're bankrupt and have no resources. They're over run by immigrants who are sucking the EU dry and displacing the native populations. Putin would have to be crazy to take that debt machine on.

The real reason for the "Cold War" aka "the Wall" was misinterpreted by the west. The Wall went up to prevent WWIII by locking the west out. Hollywood repurposed the wall story into what we believe to be the truth. It's a fantasy.

The true 'winner' of WWII was Russia who sacrificed 27M (we lost 400K) to defeat the 3rd Reich. The US was the mop up crew for WWII. Again Hollywood rewrote the propaganda to suit their needs.

There's no reason nations can't trade with one another instead of warring to steal their resources. Unless you subscribe to British Imperialism tactics where you militarily take over a country and steal, or sell off it's resources while leaving the native population to starve? That's the US today.

George was clairvoyant...
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"George Washington warned against foreign entanglements in his 1796 Farewell Address, urging the United States to avoid permanent alliances and conflicts with other nations. He believed such entanglements could compromise American independence and draw the young nation into unnecessary wars. Specifically, he advised maintaining neutrality and fostering commercial relations while steering clear of political or military commitments that could entangle the U.S. in foreign disputes. His stance was rooted in the desire to protect national sovereignty and focus on domestic development, reflecting the isolationist sentiment of the time."​
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War 'Contagion' Spreading as NATO Plans Massive Deployment in Ukraine: Martin Armstrong​

Martin Armstrong cites sources close to him that have revealed NATO is planning to send 250,000 troops into Ukraine, in a last-ditch effort to hold up a rapidly collapsing regime and a war that up until this point, has been unwinnable. Martin gives his take on how Putin will respond to this provocation, why the Western political elite are hell-bent on victory at any cost and most importantly, how we can throw the warmongering Neocons out of power and restore peace to the world.

00:00 Introduction
01:04 Trump's Deadline For Putin
11:34 250,000 NATO Troops to Ukraine?
23:22 How Would Putin Respond?
25:33 August-September War Escalation
30:52 New Conflicts Erupting
36:08 Mass Migration and Civil Unrest
53:30 How Do We Throw the Neocons Out?
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