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Of course, this could be a distraction of sorts, call everybody in for a bullshit meeting and then talking to the few you really wanted to talk to later...
 

Emmanuel Todd – ‘The Defeat Of The West’ In Its Current Phase​

A few month ago I discussed Emmanuel Todd’s most recent book:

In 1976 the French anthropologist Emmanuel Todd predicted the down fall of the Soviet Union. In After The Empire, first published in French in 2001, he predicted the (relative) decline of the United States.

In his latest (and last) book, La Défaite de l’Occident (The Defeat of the West), he laments the West’s inability to distinguish facts from wishes, as seen in its behavior during the war in Ukraine. Nihilism, a lack of values and of acceptance of reality, has infested western thinking:

Trans ideology is therefore, in my opinion, one of the flags of this nihilism that now defines the West, this drive to destroy not just things and people but reality.

Todd recently opened a substack where he is posting speeches and talks he has given.

Todd has just published a new preface for his book in which he sheds light on the consequences of the West’s defeat in Ukraine.

Here are some excerpts with highlights added:

I have always been hostile to the Russophobic policies of the United States and Europe, but as a Westerner committed to liberal democracy, a Frenchman trained in research in England, the child of a mother who was a refugee in the United States during the Second World War, I am devastated by the consequences for us Westerners of the war waged without intelligence against Russia.​
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We are only at the beginning of the catastrophe. A tipping point is approaching, beyond which the ultimate consequences of defeat will unfold.​
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I now fear that our media will exacerbate our blindness by being unable to imagine Russia’s renewed prestige in the rest of the world, which has been exploited economically and treated with arrogance by the West for centuries. The Russians dared. They challenged the Empire and they won.​
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The irony of history is that the Russians, a European and white people who speak a Slavic language, have become the military shield of the rest of the world because the West refused to integrate them after the fall of communism.​
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I can sketch out here a model of the dislocation of the West, despite the inconsistencies of the policies of Donald Trump, the defeated American president. These inconsistencies do not result, I believe, from an unstable and undoubtedly perverse personality, but from an insoluble dilemma for the United States. On the one hand, their leaders, both in the Pentagon and the White House, know that the war is lost and that Ukraine will have to be abandoned. Common sense therefore leads them to want to get out of the war. But on the other hand, the same common sense makes them realise that the withdrawal from Ukraine will have dramatic consequences for the Empire that those from Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan did not have. This is indeed the first American strategic defeat on a global scale, in a context of massive deindustrialisation in the United States and difficult reindustrialisation.​
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Imperial dynamics, or rather imperial inertia, continue to undermine the dream of a return to the productive nation state.​
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In Europe, military defeat [in Ukraine] remains poorly understood by leaders.​
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Unaware of the extent of the military defeat, they do know, however, that their own economies have been paralysed by the sanctions policy, especially by the disruption of their supply of cheap Russian energy. Cutting the European continent in half economically was an act of suicidal madness.​
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A negative economic and social dynamic existed before the war and was already putting the West under strain. It was visible, to varying degrees, throughout Western Europe. Free trade is undermining the industrial base. Immigration is developing an identity syndrome, particularly among the working classes who are deprived of secure and properly paid jobs.​
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More profoundly, the negative dynamic of fragmentation is cultural: mass higher education creates stratified societies in which the highly educated – 20%, 30%, 40% of the population – begin to live among themselves, to think of themselves as superior, to despise the working classes, and to reject manual labour and industry. Primary education for all (universal literacy) had nurtured democracy, creating a homogeneous society with an egalitarian subconscious. Higher education has given rise to oligarchies, and sometimes plutocracies, stratified societies invaded by an unequal subconscious. The ultimate paradox: the development of higher education ended up producing a decline in intellectual standards in these oligarchies or plutocracies!​
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The war has raised European tensions a notch. It is impoverishing the continent. But above all, as a major strategic failure, it is delegitimising leaders who are incapable of leading their countries to victory.​
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One of the interesting features of America today is that its leaders are finding it increasingly difficult to distinguish between internal and external issues, despite MAGA’s attempt to stop immigration from the south with a wall. The army fires on boats leaving Venezuela, bombs Iran, enters the centres of Democratic cities in the United States, and sponsors the Israeli air force for an attack on Qatar, where there is a huge American base. Any science fiction reader will recognise in this disturbing list the beginnings of a descent into dystopia, that is, a negative world where power, fragmentation, hierarchy, violence, poverty and perversity intermingle.​
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So let us remain ourselves, outside America. Let us retain our perception of the inside and the outside, our sense of proportion, our contact with reality, our conception of what is right and beautiful. Let us not allow ourselves to be dragged into a headlong rush to war by our own European leaders, those privileged individuals lost in history, desperate at having been defeated, terrified at the idea of one day being judged by their peoples. And above all, above all, let us continue to reflect on the meaning of things.​

I highly recommend to read, and reflect on, the whole essay.

Emmanuel Todd – ‘The Defeat Of The West’ In Its Current Phase – Moon of Alabama

www.moonofalabama.org www.moonofalabama.org
 

BREAKING: Invasion Of Odessa Ukraine Has Begun "Military to Take Control of the City"​

But this time, it’s not Russian troops moving in — it’s the Ukrainian military, under orders from President Zelensky, taking control of one of the most strategic cities in the country: Odesa, the “pearl of the Black Sea.”

In this special frontline analysis, I explain how Zelensky has ordered the creation of a military administration in Odesa, effectively removing the elected city government and revoking Mayor Gennadiy Trukhanov’s citizenship — a move critics say turns martial law into a political weapon.
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Andrei Martyanov: it's OVER! Iran & Russia Go ALL IN — Wiping Out Every Threat​

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Putin Takes Hybrid Warfare To The Sea

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Trump and Putin ‘set to agree on Zelensky removal' at upcoming meeting​

A prominent Finnish geopolitical analyst suggests that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin might utilize their forthcoming summit in Hungary to deliberate strategies for ousting Volodymyr Zelensky from leadership.

The Ukrainian President traveled to the White House last Friday, ostensibly to negotiate the purchase of Tomahawk cruise missiles from the US military.

Ukraine seeks to deploy the long-range weapons to more effectively strike Russia's energy infrastructure, aiming to further destabilize the Kremlin's war economy.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...upcoming-meeting/ar-AA1ORVTL?ocid=socialshare
 
Ah Ukraine, the epitome of democracy 🙃
So Trump and Putin get to decide who goes in next …….
Saves so much hand wringing and electioneering costs if done this way and no risk of dominion voting machines getting involved to create even more conflict .

Hey, Democracy is dead, long live democracy !
 
rblong2us said:
Ah Ukraine, the epitome of democracy 🙃
So Trump and Putin get to decide who goes in next …….
Saves so much hand wringing and electioneering costs if done this way and no risk of dominion voting machines getting involved to create even more conflict .

Hey, Democracy is dead, long live democracy !
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Look at America, are we much better, we can have whatever zionist whore we want, as long as we take a zionist whore... 98.2% of our politicians are AIPAC.
 
Fatrat said:
Look at America, are we much better, we can have whatever zionist whore we want, as long as we take a zionist whore... 98.2% of our politicians are AIPAC.
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Heh
You get to choose 🤡
That’s proper democracy

I attempt to make the point that while the whole clown show up till now, attempted to make it look like a choice, the western world is moving away from democracy and towards a more obvious display of showing who is really calling the shots.
 
They learned that from the israelis, they just don't murder the children like the israelis do...
 
SilverStacker said:
You think the Russians dont murder children ?
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Accidentally, yes but no where near what the Israelis do, the Israelis deliberately murder children. "Based on the most recent data available up to March 27, 2025, Israel’s military actions in Gaza during 2024 appear to have resulted in the highest number of child deaths globally for that year, significantly outpacing other conflict zones. Reports from organizations like UNICEF, Oxfam, and the UN indicate that between 11,000 and 14,500 children were killed in Gaza in 2024 due to Israeli military operations. These figures stem from the ongoing conflict that escalated following October 7, 2023, with conservative estimates from Oxfam citing 11,000 child deaths over a 12-month period ending around October 2024, and UN data suggesting up to 14,500 by late 2024. This toll is notably higher than child deaths reported in other major conflicts during the same period.For comparison, in Ukraine, the UN reported approximately 659 child deaths due to Russia’s invasion from February 2022 through mid-2024, with a smaller fraction occurring specifically in 2024 (likely around 100–200 based on annual averages)." By the way the israelis may have killed close to 600,000 people, most of them children, we may never know because israel is still murdering them.
 
Fatrat said:
Accidentally, yes but no where near what the Israelis do, the Israelis deliberately murder children. "Based on the most recent data available up to March 27, 2025, Israel’s military actions in Gaza during 2024 appear to have resulted in the highest number of child deaths globally for that year, significantly outpacing other conflict zones. Reports from organizations like UNICEF, Oxfam, and the UN indicate that between 11,000 and 14,500 children were killed in Gaza in 2024 due to Israeli military operations. These figures stem from the ongoing conflict that escalated following October 7, 2023, with conservative estimates from Oxfam citing 11,000 child deaths over a 12-month period ending around October 2024, and UN data suggesting up to 14,500 by late 2024. This toll is notably higher than child deaths reported in other major conflicts during the same period.For comparison, in Ukraine, the UN reported approximately 659 child deaths due to Russia’s invasion from February 2022 through mid-2024, with a smaller fraction occurring specifically in 2024 (likely around 100–200 based on annual averages)." By the way the israelis may have killed close to 600,000 people, most of them children, we may never know because israel is still murdering them.
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Correct!

If you follow the many different sources of info that I do you on Ukraine (there are many) realize that Russian military actually have a moral principle to only shoot military targets.

They don't target schools or hospitals unless of course artillery are positioned there. Well, guess who positions there?? Plenty of stories and videos early on where a father would go out to confront the military about setting up near a kindergarten and end up being shot for his efforts.

Ukrainians will set up in schools/hospitals and cry wolf when they get taken out. That's what the media reports. Same with the fake missiles and drones hitting Poland... false flags for the evening news here.

I have a military buddy from back in the Army (1973) who married a Uki. She hates Russians. Why? Because that's what the schools have been teaching for the last 40 years! Patrick Lancaster (youtube) has documented school books and books as well as the war showing what's been going on. Never mind that Bandera is a national hero in Ukraine. He adopted NAZI techniques so much so that even the NAZI's didn't want anything to do with him!

Yes, there are NAZI's in the Ukraine military replete with tattoos glorifying it. Flags too.

What we're hearing in the MSM is pure propaganda.
 
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Commercial Tankers Damaged in Russian Port by Ukrainian Drones | The Ocean Becoming Less Safe​

November 3, 2025
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano — a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner — discusses Ukrainian drone strike against the Russian port of Tuapse, the damage inflicted on three commercial tankers, and what this can mean for global shipping in the Black Sea and worldwide.


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Stas presents a different view

In the Eyes of Truth Update 03.11.2025 Saturn god of the western elites.Nigeria what's the real game​

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WARNING: Graphic Footage — Drones Strike Civilians Fleeing War​

 
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