Ron Paul and HR 1098: Free Competition in Currencies

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It seems painfully obvious to me that given events that are shaping the future for the US Dollar, we are headed for a currency crisis. Most pundits in the financial media, at least the ones who dare to discuss this topic, usually point to two options - default on the debt or monetize the debt. Either option will eventually yield the same result - extreme pain for America and the destruction of the US dollar. It is an event which is going to wipe out what's left of the American middle class and most of the upper middle class as well.

There is a bold solution [not (tm) Herman Cain], however, which would offer Americans a means to preserving their wealth and weathering the storm. I present to you Ron Paul's Free Competition in Currencies Act of 2011 to repeal the legal tender laws, to prohibit taxation on certain coins and bullion, and to repeal superfluous sections related to coinage:
That's it. It's less than a page long. It holds the key to future wealth preservation and prosperity. Ron Paul introduced this bill thusly:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2011-03-15/html/CREC-2011-03-15-pt1-PgE483-3.htm

Lawrence White, Professor of Economics at George Mason University testified before Congress:
More: http://financialservices.house.gov/UploadedFiles/091311white.pdf

Ron Paul has been proposing this bill every session of Congress for many years now. It always languishes in committee, just like his Audit the Fed bills.

If this bill is going to see the light of day, it's going to take an awakening among the voters to push their representatives just like the tea party groups helped pressure Congress to pass an Audit the Fed measure.

Have you contacted your Congressional Representative about this bill? Ask them whether they will support it or even better co-sponsor it? I urge you to do so:

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

Ron Paul is the only man in Washington D.C. who is truly championing economic liberty for America. If you would like to get involved in grassroots efforts to support him, I highly recommend joining the multi-hued melange of liberty lovers at the Ron Paul Forums (RPF)
 
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I agree that Ron Paul is really the only candidate who could fix this mess our country is in. Even with Ron Paul, we would still go through a lot of a lot of turbulence and pain.

But, he gets it. Honest money. He is very truthful (by political standards anyway).

And he does not have any problems with liberty of owning gold, in fact he is aggressive in recognizing gold's roles as wealth protector and liberty protector.

Still, if he cannot win the nomination I would rather have a Romney or a Gingrich than the current president. But, I think that anybody BUT RP is more part of the problem than part of the solution.
 
Every word that Ron Paul speaks is about returning power to the people, reducing government and government spending, practicing sound monetary policy, and a return to the constitution. A document, that I think, Americans take for granted, even though it is supposed to be the guideline for our government and the direction we are to take as a people.

I think if people who didn't know the first thing about Ron Paul would just get on youtube and watch his recording on "Mutually Assured Respect", they wouldnt' need another word from him on anything else. Ron Paul is the first politician that actually makes me feel HOPE, and I'd love to be able to tell him that in person.

Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!
 
I agree that Paul, and the good ideas of his like this one, are the best hope we have to avoid the disaster we are trying to prepare for. I'll second PMBug's endorsement of RPF as well, it is a great site with an amazing array of people, opinions, and insights.



I do wonder how things would actually work with such legislation enacted.

If gold and silver were again allowed to function as they should, and the paper/digital FRNs we have now still exist, what would the transition look like?

If it happened tomorrow I could see many people, like all of us, who would basically take our paychecks straight to the coin dealers. Over time I would think that metals will become more popular, as they already are, resulting in higher metals prices in terms of dollars.

At some point I think people would realize that getting paid in dollars is not good enough since their value would have been so greatly reduced that trading paper for metal would become rather difficult.

Would businesses start paying wages in metal? Would employers increase the dollar wages until some breaking point (like losing employees to competitors who pay in metal)?

How would the mechanism for paying employees work with metal as currency? I could see it working with the bank acquiring metals from its customers and depositing it in a bank of some sort. Then it could electronically issue claims tickets for certain amounts of metal that could be redeemed in person (like in the old days) or electronically (transfer said metal to account/deposit box in employee's name). I would love for my boss to hand me a bag of coins at the end of the week, but some folks like the ease of direct deposit.

I would think that it would not work to denominate the employees' compensation in dollars to be redeemed in metals since the purchasing power of dollars will vary wildly. That variation could be wonderful or disastrous for the bank, the employer, and/or the employee in different circumstances. This brings up a bigger question in my mind that would be best served by a standalone thread.



Here's what my paycheck should look like ---->
 
If this act were made in to law, nearly every single piece of "paper" out there becomes instantaneously worthless on its face. Think about the ramifications of the elimination of leverage for a minute. While I am a firm believer in real money, gold and silver would have to be valued exponentially higher to support the "value" of all paper contrtacts that currently support the world financial paradigm.

Now suppose for a minute we incrementally re-value PM's to support that mountain of garbage. Gold and silver would be unobtainable by the common man.

It's kind of a catch 22 right now. Unless we have a rapid and disorderly collapse of the current system, such that there remains zero faith in fiat, we cannot step in to a PM based system, because there is simply not enough of it to support the worlds population. We would be talking in terms of a milligram of gold being worth a hundred dollars. You would have to mint base metal medallions with a tiny drilled out center point, with a miniscule amount of precious metal inserted.

That said, if TSHTF, which I believe to be happenning in slow motion as I type this, then it all becomes moot, and PM's rule by default.
 
He who has the gold...
 

http://paul.house.gov/index.php?opt...inued-euro-bailout&catid=16:speeches&Itemid=1
 

More: http://www.nysun.com/editorials/bernanke-101/87752/

Bravo NY Sun!
 
Follow up to Bernanke's propaganda tour at George Washington University:
More (including point by point rebuttal to Bernanke's presentation): http://www.zerohedge.com/news/annot...ponds-bernankes-latest-attempt-discredit-gold
 
FreedomWorks, Dick Armey's attempt to hijack the original tea party movement, is apparently on board with HR 1098!


http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/mkibbe/tell-your-representative-to-cosponsor-hr-1098-the

Link to send a letter to your Congresscritter: http://action.freedomworks.org/6563...sor-hr-1098-free-competition-in/?source=APR15

 

http://paul.house.gov/index.php?opt...end-it&catid=62:texas-straight-talk&Itemid=69
 

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/ron-pauls-triumph/87913/
 

http://paul.house.gov/index.php?opt...allel-currencies&catid=63:2011-press-releases

The witnesses submitted some written documents for the hearing:

Ebeling: http://financialservices.house.gov/UploadedFiles/HHRG-112-BA19-WState-REbeling-20120802.pdf

Lewis: http://financialservices.house.gov/UploadedFiles/HHRG-112-BA19-WState-NLewis-20120802.pdf

Gray: http://financialservices.house.gov/UploadedFiles/HHRG-112-BA19-WState-RGray-20120802.pdf

Link to live stream (supposedly): http://mfile.akamai.com/65722/live/reflector:36166.asx?bkup=36167&prop=n
 
Sound Money subcommittee hearing starting now...
 

http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1999&Itemid=60

Here's the full hearing:

 
AOCS guys testify before the House Committee

http://www.opencurrency.com/5-things-i-learned-from-d-c/

A lot of interesting things in this article, but this one strikes me:"When you say House Financial Services Domestic Monetary Services Subcommittee to me, it sounds important. First, the domestic economy is in shambles, and our monetary policy is at the very root of this issue. Maybe you don’t know enough to agree with me, but certainly the members of the committee DO (or at least should). 30 seconds before the hearing was scheduled to start, we were still unsure if the hearing was going to start. Why? Because, as Ron Paul explained, “We need at least one other committee member here to call the session to order.” I’m sorry? No one shows up for this stuff? And that’s okay? At the scheduled hour, almost on the dot, we were lucky to be joined by Congressman Luetkemeyer, and the meeting was called to order."
 
Thanks Benjamen. I appreciated getting a more detailed explanation for his testimony that legal tender laws were not an issue.
 

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/is-legal-tender-next/88019/
 
Forbes is really amping up the drum beats lately...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2012/10/03/gold-can-save-us-from-disaster/
 
NY Sun with another brilliant piece:
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/the-80-solution/88049/
 

http://news.coinupdate.com/ron-pauls-free-competition-in-currency-act-lives-on-1795/
 

More: http://www.nysun.com/editorials/the-state-of-the-dollar/88190/
 

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/the-dwindling-fed/88707/
 

http://www.nysun.com/editorials/congress-eyes-rules-for-the-fed/88780/
 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-24/legal-tender-renders-planning-impossible
 
One of the main arguments The Fed and it's agents in D.C. use to undermine support for an audit of the Fed is that it would subject the Fed to political interference - that they are currently apolitical.


More: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-01/america-meet-your-apolitical-federal-reserve
 



http://thepulse2016.com/ralph-benko...-gold-standard-will-restore-upward-mobility/#
 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...flation-coming-and-urges-return-gold-standard

The ZH bit links to a Bloomberg Surveillance show (embedded video on Bloomberg) that is 36 minutes long. I didn't watch it to see if ZH took Greenspan's comment out of context, but wow. It's been a while since I've caught wind of Greenspan saying anything that assertive about the gold standard. That last question reminds me so much of when Ron Paul questioned Ben Bernanke and asked him the same thing.

Tradition!

edit: original source is actually GoldCore: http://www.goldcore.com/us/gold-blo...ion-coming-and-urges-return-to-gold-standard/

They aren't prone to hyperbole or twisting facts in my experience.

edit #2: GATA says gold standard comments come at 18:25 mark in the video. Comments confirmed.
 
Al has always been a gold bug but once he was put in charge of the fed he had to support the $.

What is heartening is that it gets harder to argue that gold is a useless relic as more wake up to the fact that gold is the place of safety that the hedgies and the likes of Soros chose when things got difficult.

Can only be good for POG going forward (-:
 
What's up bugs?!?! Been a while since I've been on this site. When I saw this on zerohedge I had a sneaking suspicion there would be mention of it here. As mentioned in the above posts Alan has always been a goldbug but still good to show consistency. I don't think there is any plans to implement this but good to be recognized from a former fed leader and highly respected banker, if there is such a thing. Anyway hope you all are doing well, good to be back from my hiatus.
 
Hey w&y999, glad to see you are still around. This fool on the hill is still watching the world go 'round.
 
hey white n yellow
good to hear from you.

Did you buy gold around the time this little community first got together ?

and are you up, down or about even at this time ?
 
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